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Barrett, Richard, 1604-, former Jesuit Priest

  • Person
  • 1604-

Born: 1604, Kilmacduagh, County Galway
Entered: 1621, Seville, Spain (Baetica Province (BAE)
Ordained: 1630, Córdoba, Spain

Left Society of Jesus: 21 May 1644 from Cadiz, Spain

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773
Born in Galway, 1604, was received into the Society at the Novitiate of Seville, 1622. He studied Philosophy and Theology at Córdoba, where he was ordained priest, 1630.

On the completion of his studies he was appointed Minister at the Irish College, Seville, where he remained for two years, 1631-1633. He spent the following year at Madrid and returned to Ireland, 1634.

Appointed to the Mission in Connaught, he spent seven years there and then he returned to his Province of Andalusia. He was again assigned to the Irish College, Seville, and two years later as operarius to Cadiz, where he left the Society in 1644.

Bergin, William, 1618-, former Jesuit Priest

  • Person
  • 1618-

Born: 1618, Kilkenny City, County Kilkenny
Entered: 07 May 1646, St Andrea, Rome, Italy (ROM)
Ordained: ??
Died post 1670

Left Society of Jesus: 1658

◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
BOURGOYNE, WILLIAM All that I discover of this Father is that he was born in 1618; that in 1640 he was teaching Grammar at Waterford, and that he deserved the character of “vir prudentiae vere Religiosae”.

◆ CATSJ A-H has Irish; DOB 1618 Ossory; Ent St Andrea Rome 07/05/1646 or Aug; RIP after 1653 (poss 18/01/1653)
Ordained before entry ?? having studied at Alcala; 1st Vows at Kilkenny 26/07/1648 - was accused of turpitude at Kilkenny!;
Read 4 years of Theology
1649 was in Waterford - Teacher, Confessor, Preacher and Missionary
Names mentioned in ANG Cat 1651 as one who might be Superior of Irish Seminary in Spain, being then in 4th year Theology at Alcala

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
DOB 1618 Ossory; Ent 1646 Rome; RIP post 1650

1649 At Waterford; A very religious man; He had studied at Alcalá (cf Foley’s Collectanea)

In pen beside entry
Ent Rome, 25/07/1643; RIP c 1674 at Leghorn (ARSI)

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
Father William Bergin 33 all theology
07 May 1646 Entered St Andrea Rome

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773
Son of William Bergin and Honora O’Connor, was born in Kilkenny and entered the Society at Rome, May 7, 1646 when he was already a priest. He had been educated at the Irish College in Rome.

He returned to Iereland after his Noviceship and was teaching in Waterford at the time of Father Verdier;s Visitation of the Mission, 1649.

Under the Cromwellian regime he was banished to Spain, 1652, but left the Society in the Province of Andalusia, 1658.

Afterwards, according to Father Stephen Rice, Father Bergin:-

 “came to Leghorn in Italy, where for many years he lived, known for his praiseworthy life and spending himself for the conversion of English heretics who came there to trade. He died there a few years ago”.

Father Roice wrote this in 1678.

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
BERGIN, WILLIAM, Father (Irish), a native of Ossory, born ....; entered the Society 1646 in Rome, and was sent a novice to the Irish Mission, where he took bis vows as a scholastic in 1648. Made two years philosophy and four of scholastic theology. Knew Italian, Irish, English, and Latin Taught humanities for onc year; soon afterwards was a preacher, missioner, and confessor. (Irish Catalogue for 1650 in Archives, Rome.)

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
BOURGOYNE, WILLIAM, Father (Irish), was born 1618. In 1649 he was teaching grammar at Waterford. A truly prudent and religious man. (Oliver, Irish Section, from Stonyhurst MSS.)

Burke, Richard, fl.1650, former Jesuit priest

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  • Person

Born: Clontuskert, County Galway
Entered: 1650, Spain
Ordained: ???
Died: post 1679

Superior of Irish Mission 1670-1679

Left Society of Jesus: ???
Official Catalogus Defuncti MISSING

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as Ent 1650

◆ Old/15 (1) has “Richard Burke or Burgo” Ent 1650 RIP 1693

◆ Old/16 has : “P Richard De Burgo or Burke”; DOB Clontuskert Galway; Ent 1650 Spain; RIP post 1697

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
De Burgo or Burke

DOB Clontuskert; Ent 1650 Spain;

Nephew of John De Burgo, Archbishop of Tuam; Of the Clanricarde family (also known as Mac William Uachtar - Upper Mac William - or the Galway Burkes).

1660 At St Malo. Reported to the General as “prudens et insignis religiosus”
1662 Sent to Ireland
1670 Superior of the Mission
1679 Arrested for the faith and deported

Of polished manners; A good Religious and prudent and hardworking Missioner; Successful in reconciling enemies.

◆ Menology of the Society of Jesus: The English Speaking Assistancy
January 19

Father Richard Burke, born in County Galway, was the nephew of Dr. Burke, Archbishop of Tuam. In 1650, he entered the Society, being then in Spain. He came back to Ireland in 1662, was appointed Superior of the Mission, and arrived in Dublin on January the 20th, 1670. He was subsequently arrested in connection with the Oates' conspiracy, released on bail in 1679, and lived in daily expectation of banishment. He bore the reputation of being a good Religious, a man of courteous and winning manner, a discreet and hardworking missioner ; all which qualities gave him unwonted success in the spiritual art of reconciling enemies.

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
BURKE, RICHARD, Father (Irish), was nephew to Dr. John Burke, the Archbishop of Tuam. He entered the Society in Spain. On January 20, 1670, he arrived in Dublin as Superior of the Irish Jesuits, then thirty-five in number. He had been arrested in the Oates Plot persecution, and released on bail, and in May, 1679, was daily expecting banishment. (Oliver's Collectanca, Irish section, from Stonyhurst MSS.) In 1666 he was living near Galway, Consultor of the Mission, and assisting his uncle the Archbishop, and was successful in reconciling enmities. He had been four years on the mission. (Irish Cataloguc, 1666, Archives, Rome.)

Cantwell, Michael, 1589-1639, former Jesuit Priest

  • Person
  • 1589-1639

Born: 1589, Kilkenny/Tipperary
Entered: 1605, Lisbon, Portugal (LUS)
Ordained: 1615/16
Died: 1639, Ireland

Left Society of Jesus: 27 March 1634

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
Two Entries : 1. Michael Cantwell; 2. Michael De Morales

DOB 1586 Tipperary (1), Kilkenny (2); Ent 1605 Portugal (1), 1605 TOLE (2); RIP post 1631 Ireland (1); RIP post 1619 (2)

A Writer; LEFT the Society c 1630; Is praised by O’Sullevan Beara (1)
1617 in TOLE; 1619 Seville; perhaps he is identical with Michael Cantwell (2)

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

He was born in 1589 and was a student at the Irish College, Lisbon, when he entered the Society in that city, 1607.

He resumed his ecclesiastical studies at Coimbra, but having completed only two years of Theology there, he was transferred to Spain, where he completed his studies at the College of S Hermenegildo, at Seville, and where he was ordained priest, 1615/1616.

He was Minister at the Irish College, Seville, in 1621, when he finally got permission to return to ireland. He had been trying to get back to Ireland to patch up quarrels in his family. After his return he worked on the Mission in East Munster, but left the Society, or was dismissed, early in 1630. That same year he set out for Rome, allegedly with the support of some Irish Bishops, to lay before the Holy See complaints, not only against the Jesuits in Ireland, but against all the regular clergy of the country.

His later career cannot be treated.

◆ 2014 412 Studies - Michael Cantwell - A Troubled Irish Jesuit in 17th Century Spain - Lozano.doc

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
CANTWELL, MICHAEL (Irish), entered the Society 1605. (Hogan's Ibernia, p. 249.)

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
MORALES, MICHAEL DE, Father (Irish), alias CANTWEL, was a native of Kilkenny. He appears in the Province of Toledo in 1617. In 1619 at the Irish College, Seville. Irish Ecclesiastical Record, February, 1873). He may be identical with Michael Cantwell, who entered the Society 1605, and died in 1631. (Hogan's list.)

Conway, John, 1901-, former Jesuit Priest

  • Person
  • 1601-

Born: 1601,New Ross, County Wexford
Entered: 05 January 1617, Villagarcía, Galicia, Spain - Castellanae Province (CAST)
Ordained: c 1627

Left Society of Jesus: 08 July 1631

◆ CATSJ A-H has DOB Cashel
1625 at Salamanca
1625 at Seville 2nd year Theology
1628 a native of Cashel is Minister and Operarius or Irish College Seville
John Conway of Ross in Villagarcía 1301, 1617, 1619
John Conbeus (no 2) of Ross DOB 1598 at Salamanca 1621
John Conbeus of Ross in College of Leon 1628
1637 CAT at ARSI proficient in letters, judgement, experience and prudence mediocre

also DOB 1600 Cashel; Ent 1620; 1625 at Seville Theology; 13628 at Seville Minister and Operarius
also DOB 1598 Ross Diocese; Ent 1617; 1619 at Villagarcía; 1625 at Salamanca

Much confusion of John Conways here - there are 4 : 3 priests and 1 brother the confusions is with the priests

◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
CONNY,---- was Superior of the Seminary at Salamanca in the summer of 1607

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
DOB 1600 New Ross; Ent 1617 or in pen 05/01/1617 Spain; RIP 08/10/1689 Ghent (though this could be William RIP 1689??)

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
John Conway of New Ross, dioc of Ferns, 16
Son of Son of Thomas Conway and Margaret de Berox - Devereux (also Catalina da Crox - Cruise?)
05 January 1617 Entered CAST

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

He was born at New Ross, 1601, and entered the Society in the Province of Castille, January 5, 1617. He was the son of Thomas Conway (brother of Father Richard SJ - RIP 1626) and his wife Margaret Devereux.

After his Noviceship at Villagarcia, he studied Philosophy at Compostella and Theology at the Royal College, Salamanca, where he was ordained Priest, c 1627,

The following year he was stationed at Oviedo as Operarius.

He left the Society July 8, 1631.

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
CONNY,- Father, (Irish), was Rector of the Irish College of Salamanca in the autumn of 1607.

Coppinger, John, former Jesuit Priest

  • Person

Born: County Wexford or County Cork
Entered: 1606, France

Left Society of Jesus: 1639 (ill health)

in 1634 Cat as “Infirmus” no other info - LEFT by 1639 ill health

◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
COPPINGER, JOHN, left Ireland for France to enter the Society early in 1606, as I discover in F. Holywood s letter of the 29th of June, that year.

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
DOB Wexford or Cork; Ent June 1606; RIP 1619-1626

A writer; A Missioner of note; Alive in 1624

In pen
“John Copinger and James Griphous were witnesses to the oath of James Miach, Cork, 30/09/1598 at Irish College Salamanca”
“ev John Copinger of Leixlip, will proven 1639”

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
COPPINGER, JOHN Father (Irish), entered the Society 1606. (Hogan's Ibernia, p. 249.)

Gould, Stephen, 1890-, former Jesuit Priest

  • Person
  • 01 February 1590-

Born: 01 February 1590, Cork City, County Cork
Entered: 14 November 1609, St Andrea, Rome, Italy (ROM)
Ordained: ???

Left Society of Jesus: 24 October 1619

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as Ent 1608

Old/15 (10 has Ent 1608, corrected to 14/11/1609, RIP after 1615

Old/16 has : “P Stephen Gould”; DOB 1589 Cork; Ent 1608; RIP 1617 & 1626

Old/17 has “Guldeo” Ent 14/11/1609 St Andrea
Old/17 has “Gooldous” Dimissi 24/10/1619 (HIB)

◆ CATSJ A-H has “Gould or Goulde”; DOB 01/02/1590 Irishman/Cork; Ent 01/08 or 14/11/1609 St Andrea, Rome;
A philosopher on Ent. Studied Philosophy at our College of Antwerp and Douai
Probation at Tournai or Douai
1611 BELG CAT Sent to Belgium from Rome - endowed with great natural gifts
1615 Taught Syntax or perhaps Teaching Greek at Dinant (GAL-BEL)

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
DOB 1589 Cork; Ent 1608 Rome; RIP 1617-1626

Described as a man of great abilities

Was in Belgium 1611 and 1617

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
Stephen Gould 21 “filosofo”
13 November 1609 Entered St Andrea Rome

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

He was born in Ireland, February 1, 1590, and he entered the Society at Rome, November 14, 1609. he had already studied Humanies for six years under the Jesuits at Antwerp and Douai, and in the latter town studied Philosophy at the Irish College.

After one year at Rome, he was sent to Tournai to complete his Noviceship. Having made his first religious profession, he spent a year at Mons completing his Philosophyu course, and then two years of Regency between the Colleges of Mons and Dinant. Between 1614 and 1616, he was studying Theology at Louvain. A lacuna in the Catalogi of Belgium makes it impossible to determined whether he was ordained Priest in the Society.

He left the Society October 24, 1619, and his name disappears henceforth from Society records.

A letter, however, of the General to his provincial, and dated December 10, 1616, makes it clear that Gould had bee4n sent back to Ireland because of the precarious state of his health. he left the Society at his own request.

It is likely that he is identical with a Stephen Gould, a priest, who arrived at the Irish College, Salamanca, April 25, 1620, described as the con of George Gould of the city of Cork. He was said to gave been about 32 years of age. Father Thomas Briones, Rector at Salamanca, sent him to Ireland, July 4, 1620.

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
GOULD, STEPHEN, Father (Irish), a native of Cork. Was in Belgium in 1617. (Irish Ecclesiastical Record, August, 1874.)

Lea, Laurence, 1584-, former Jesuit Priest

  • Person
  • 10 August 1584-

Born: 10 August 1584, Waterford City, County Waterford
Entered: 11 January 1605, St Andrea, Rome, Italy (ROM)

Left Society of Jesus: 1612

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as Ent 1604
◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as Ent 02/01/1605

◆ Old/15 (1) has Ent 1604
◆ Old/15 (1) has in pencil on one copy Ent 02/01/1605, RIP after 1612-13

◆ Old/16 has : “P Laurence Lea”; DOB 1584 Waterford; Ent 1604; RIP 1609 & 1616 Germany

◆ Old/17 has Ent 11/01/1605 St Andrea

◆ CATSJ I-Y has DOB 10/08/1584 Waterford; Ent 11th or 02/01/1605 St Andrea;
Had studied Philosophy 1 year
1611 At Ingolstadt studying Theology (Ingolstadt CAT)
1612-1613 Sent from Germany to Belgium

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
DOB 1584 Waterford; Ent 1604; RIP 1609-616

1609 In Upper Germany

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
Laurence Lea 20
11 January 1605 Entered St Andrea (ROM)

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

He was son of John Lea and his wife Elizabeth Walshe, and he was born in Waterford, August 10, 1584. He entered the Irish College of Salamanca, June 26, 1603, and was received into the Society at Rome, January 11, 1905.

After his Noviceship he was sent to Upper Germany to continue his ecclesiastical studies, and was completing his fiirst year of Theology at Ingolstadt in 1611. He was then described as in poor health. In February 1612 he was at Antwerp, still unwell, but anxious to be ordained and to be sent to Ireland. A month later, the General advised the Provincial of Flanders that Lea should not be ordained because of his health, as he was unlikely to succeed afterwards in Ireland.

It seems he left the Society but became a Priest and eventually Vicar general of Waterford.

The General, on March 12, 1622, wrote to a Father Laurence Lea of Waterford, commending him for his work in promoting the Sodality of the Blessed Virgin. But it cannot be proved that the scholastic of Ingolstadt and Antwerp is identified with the future Vicar General.

Lee, John, 1584-, former Jesuit Priest of the Castellanae Province

  • Person
  • 1583-

Born: 1583, County Waterford / Oporto, Portugal
Entered: 20 April 1599, Santiago de Compostella, Spain - Castellanae Province (CAST)

Left Society of Jesus: 04 January 1611

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as “Lea” Ent 1598
◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as “Lea” Ent 1599 and there is one earlier as Ent 1598

◆ Old/15 (1) has “John St Leger” in pencil and Ent 1598-9
◆ Old/15 (1) has a “John Lee” Ent 1599

◆ Old/16 has : “P John Lee”; DOB 1583 Kilkenny; Ent 1598 Santiago; RIP between 1609 and 1617

◆ CATSJ I-Y has “De Lega (Lea?)”; DOB Waterford;
In Hogan’s hand : John Lee 1599, before 1627
1606 John De Lega At Valladolid College age 23 in Soc 7
1627 John De Lea in 3rd year Theology at Seville

In CAT Chron p11 there is a John Lee of Kilkenny : Is it he who was a fellow Novice of Dominic Collins p149

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
DOB Kilkenny 1583; Ent 1598 Compostella’ RIP 1609-1917

Fellow Novice with Richard Walshe and Dominic Collins at Santiago de Compostella

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
John de Lega (Lea?) 16 native of Waterdord Oporto in Portrugal, of Irish parents from Waterford -
Studied Grammar for three years
20 April 1599 Entered CAST

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
LEE, JOHN, Father (Irish), son of Walter Lee, of Kilkenny ; born in Kilkenny 1583; entered the Society 1598 (Father Hogan's list), and was fellow-novice at St. James', Compostella, with Father Richard Walshe and Brother Dominic Collins the martyr. (See State Paper; Father Hogan's Ibernia; D. Collins.) He died between 1609 and 1617. (Hogan's list.)

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

John Lea

He was born in 1583, and entered the Society in the Province of Castille, April 20, 1599. His parents eere from the city of Waterford, but it is uncertain whether he was born there or in Oporto, whither his parents had migrated.

After his Noviceship he was sent to the Jesuit College of Santiago for his Philosophical studies, but entered on his Theological studies at the College of St Ambrose, Valladolid.

His career cannot be traced in the absence of contemporary Catalogi after 1607, when he was in his third year of Theology. Correspondence however, of 1608-1610, indicates that he was wavering in his vocation as his parents were in want and in need of his help. The letters also refer to him as El hermano Juan showing that he had not been ordained Priest. He was now living at Salamanca in 1610, but some months later was in Burgos.

The General finally, January 4, 1611, allowed him to leave the Society.

O’Driscoll, Conor, 1597-1634, former Jesuit Priest of the Castellanae Province

  • Person
  • 1597-1634

Born: 1597, Castlehaven, County Cork
Entered: 15 October 1614, Spain - Castellanae Province (CAST)
Ordained: 1623/4, Royal College Salamanca, Salamanca, Spain
Died: 1634

Left Society of Jesus: 02 February 1626

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as “O’Driscol” Ent 1614

◆ Old/15 (1) “O’Driscol”, RIP after 1625

◆ Old/16 has : “P Conor O’Driscol”; DOB 1597 Cork; Ent 1614 Spain; RIP post 1626

◆ Old/17 has “Driscol” Dimissi 02/02/1626 (CAST)

◆ CATSJ I-Y has “Cornelius O’Driscol”; DOB 1595 Castlehaven; Ent 1614; RIP 1634
First Vows 18/02/1616
1622-1625 At Salamanca studying Theology. Good student, talented enough to teach Arts and Theology
1625 At Arevalo College CAST

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
O’Driscol

DOB 1597 Cork; Ent 1614 Spain; RIP post 1626

He was a Priest in Spain in 1617 and 1626 (CATS 1617 and 1626)

In pen
At College of Salamanca 1625; Made First Vows 1614; Had studied three years Philosophy and 4 Theology

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
Cornelius Driscol 17 of Ireland
Son of Thady Driscol and Margaret Carti
15 October 1614 Entered CAST

◆ Francis Finegan Notes
Cornelius or Conor

DOB 1598 Castlehaven; Ent 01/12/1614 CAST; Ord 1623/24 Salamanca; LEFT 02/02/1626

Son of Thady (a colonel in the Spanish Army) and Margaret née Carty

After First Vows he was sent for studies to Pamplona and Royal College Salamanca where he was Ordained 1623/24
His Superiors had remarked his ability in Theology and sent him for post-graduate studies also at Salamanca. He did not get the chance of settling down to his scholastic career, however, as his parents, then living in Coruña, claimed his financial help in their poverty. The General and the Spanish Superiors tried so to arrange matters so that Thady O’Driscoll might be helped in his penury while his son could remain a Jesuit, whilst at the same time the Superior of the Irish Mission was trying to recruit him. But eventually yielding to the pressure of the O’Driscolls and their son, the General dismissed him in 02/02/1626

Rousseau, Joseph, 1852-, former Jesuit Priest of the Tolosanae Province

  • Person
  • 01 August 1852-

Born: 01 August 1852,
Entered: 20 August 1871, Palencia, Spain - Tolosanae Province (TOLO)
Ordained: 1885

Left Society of Jesus: 1887

1871-1873: Palencia, Spain (TOLO), Novitiate
1873-1875: Collége Saint Marie, Place Saint-Sernin, Toulouse, France, Rhetoric
1875-1876: Vals, Le Puy, France, Philosophy
1876-1879: Collége Saint Joseph de Tivoli, Boulevard de Caudéran, Bordeaux, France, Regency
1879-1880: Collége Saint Marie, Place Saint-SerninToulouse, France, Regency
1880-1881: out of Community at home doing private study
1881-1885: Monasterio de Uclés, Tarancon, Cuenca, Spain, Theology
1885-1886: Mungret College, Limerick (HIB), Prefect of Studies and Teacher
1886-1887: Mourvilles-Basses, Occitanie, France, Tertianship

Ryan, Thomas, former Jesuit Priest

  • Person

Born: Ireland
Entered: 1655,
Ordained: ???
Died: ???
Official Catalogus Defuncti MISSING

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as Ent 1655 and Old/15 (1)

◆ Old/16 has : “Thomas Ryan”; Ent 1655

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
Ent c 1655

Superior in Dublin in the early part of the reign of Charles II; Reputed an able-divine (Foley)

His letter(s) written in 1661 are at Salamanca

◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
RYAN, THOMAS, was Superior in Dublin, in the early part of Charles the Second’s reign (1630-1685), and had the reputation of being an able Divine. It is painful to be unable to follow up the history of this Rev. Father.

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
RYAN, THOMAS, Father (Irish), entered the Society about 1655-6. (Hogan's list.) He was Superior in Dublin in the early part of the reign of King Charles II, and had the reputation of being an able divine, (Oliver, from Stonyhurst MSS.)

Sall, Andrew Fitzjohn, 1624-1682, scholar and former Jesuit priest

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  • Person
  • 29 November 1624-07 April 1682

Born: 29 November 1624, Cashel, County Tipperary
Entered: 08 November 1641, Villagarcía, Galicia, Spain (CAST)
Ordained: 1648/9
Final Vows: 08 September 1658
Died: 07 April 1682, Dublin, County Dublin

Left Society of Jesus: 17 May 1674

Nephew of James Sall - RIP 1646; cousin of Andrew Fitzbennet Sall, RIP - 1686; Uncle of Stephen Sall - RIP 1722

Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

Andrew Sall

According to most historians, Andrew Sall was the “Provincial” of the Jesuits who became a Protestant! here happened to be two comntemporary Irish Jesuit cousins. Society correspondence distinguishes between the two : Andrewas Sall Benedicti and Andreas Sall Joannis. Thes names, are, since Father Hogan’s time, rendered : Andrew Fitzbennet Sall and Andrew Fitzjohn Sall. The form FutzBennet has contemporary warrant outside the Society. I have not yet met with the form FitzJohn in contemporary documents.

The reader wikll be able to distinguish between the two and make up his mind that the Superior of the Mission did not apostasise.

-oOo-

Andrew Fitzjohn Sall

he was born in Cashel November 29, 1624, and he studied Philosophy for two years before he entered the Society at Villagarcía on November 8, 1640.

After his Noviceship he completed his Philosophy (the sources do not state where) and taught Humaniteis for two years at the Jesuit College of Compostella, he entered on his Theological studies in 1645 at the College of St AMbrose, Valladolid, and was ordained Priest there 1648/1649. Whether he made his tertianship at the end of his studies is uncertain.

By October 9, 1650, he was already Rector of the Irish College, Salamanca, and remained in office there until at least May 25, 1652. While at Salamanca he lectured in Controversial Theollgy. His next assignmant after Salamanca was that of Operarius at Oviedo (1655) and Pamplona (1658), where he was teaching Philosophy. Two years later he was teaching Philosophy or Theology at the College of Palencia, and was still, for all we know, at Palencia when he was recalled to the Irish Mission in 1664. He exercised his ministry in his native Cashel. Before he returned from Spain he had been admitted to the ranks of the solemnly professed of the Society on September 8, 1658.

In Cashel he proved himself an able Preacher, and is described in the Catalogues of 1666 as In confiutandis Jansenistis et heterodoxis potens. The General, however, in a letter of October 12, 1669 to the Superior of the Mission, Father Francis White, comunicated his apprehensiosn with regard to Fitzjohn Sall; “Keep Andrew Sall junior to his duty, and make him follow the example of Father Sall senior”.

It is a matter of general knowledge that Sall apostasised in the Church of St John, Cashel, on May 17, 1674. The following Jul 5, he preached before the Lord Lieutenant and Council a sermon in Christ Church, Dublin, giving his reasons for entering the established Protestant Church in Ireland.

His later history is of no concern to the Society, it has been dealt with in varius articles and pamphlets. It is enough to state here that the General issued directives that while members of the Irish Mission might answeer Sall’s doctrinal errors, no word should be used against him, likely to confirm him in his obduracy. The General hoped against hope that Sall would return to the Church.

He died unexpectedly in Dublin, April 7, 1862, and was buried at St Patrick’s Cathedral. Of his unhappy end, news was communicated by Archbishop John Brennan to Propaganda on May 1, 1682:-

Ne mese prossimo passato mori in Dublino Andrea Sll gesuita della diocesi Casselense, apostata dela fede. Si dice che volesse l’assistenza d’un sacerdote alla morte, ma non gli riusci, morendo subitamente.

(The article on Sall in the DNB (by R Bagwell) is quite untrustworthy so far as concerns Sall’s career in the Society. Foley, surprisingly, translates Andrew Fitzbennet Sall from Liège to Spain to make him Rector at Salamanca. he doesn’t make him leave the Church, however. It is to Hogan’s credit, in spite of the fact that he worked very mucg at second-hand and leaned heavily on Foley, that he keeps distinct the careers of the two Andrews.)

◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
F. Andrew Sall - This unfortunate man was born at Cashell, in 1612, and at the age of 23 joined the Society in the English Province. In 1642 he was studying the fourth year of Theology at Liege College. Re turning to Ireland, he so conducted himself as to he reported to the General of the Order, by Pere Verdier, who had met him in the course of his Visitation at Cashell, as “valde bonus et candidi animi”. When the Parliamentary supplanted the Royal Authority in Ireland, and many of the Regular and Secular Clergy fled from their savage persecutors, F. Sall remained behind, and did good service to Religion, chiefly at Waterford. But, at length, he was hunted out by the Priest Catchers From his own letter I learn, that after saying Mass, he was apprehended on the 22nd of January 1658, in the house of a respectable widow in Watetford. After thirteen months imprisonment, he was discharged from jail at the intercession of the Portuguese Ambassador; but condemned to perpetual exile. He reached Nantz in June, 1659 and was certainly there with F Thomas Quin on the 24th of February, 1660. Subsequently he went to Spain; and on his return to Ireland in 1663 was appointed Superior to his Brethren. This promotion, I fear, turned his head. A letter of F. Nicholas Netterville, a Jesuit of superior merit, to Fr. J. P. Oliva, dated Amiens, the 8th of February, 1667, satisfies me that F. Sall was then an altered man. No one becomes wicked on a sudden; and F Sall must have resisted many graces and warnings, before he publicly abjured the Catholic Faith in his native City, on the 17th of May, 1674. F. Stephen Rice, the Superior in Ireland, after stating to the said General the joy afforded to the Irish Mission by the erection of the new Seminary at Poitiers, observes, that their joy was clouded by the fall of this Brother, the first instance of apostacy of an Irish Jesuit. He adds that F. Sall had grown weary of the vows of poverty - had studied self-ease - had been addicted to vain glory, and much too fond of popular applause. Heresy showered on the miserable old man a profusion of titles and Church Preferments, of all which death deprived him, on the 6th of April, 1682. “Si Sal infatuatuin fuerit, &c.” If the salt have lost its savour, it is good for nothing, but to be cast out, and trodden under the foot of men. Yet in Peter Walsh he found an Advocate, if not an Admirer.

We may remark, that Harris’ account of this poor Renegade may, in many respects, be refuted by original documents, now extant.
A letter to me (Oliver) from the learned William Talbot Esq, dated Rool=klands, Wexford, 12 April, 1824, says “The Renegade Sall, in his last moments, called for a Cath clergyman, but none were allowed to see him”.

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Sall, Andrew Fitzjohn

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McCaughey, Terence

Sall, Andrew Fitzjohn (1624–82), scholar and sometime Jesuit, was born into an Old English family in the city of Cashel, Co. Tipperary; nothing is known of his parents. More than five Jesuits bore the name Sall (Sál, Sale). With such a background it is not surprising to find the young Andrew Fitzjohn Sall setting off in 1638 to study in Spain. He was to be there for seventeen years. His period on the staff of the college at Numacia and Villagarcia was probably routine. But not so his appointment to Pamplona, where he became advisor to El Conde de San Stephano and made his first acquaintance with Bishop Nicholas French (qv). He became rector of the Irish College in 1652 and was professor of controversial theology. An intention to change the direction of his career is suggested by the fact that he was serving as a pastoral substitute in Oviedo in 1655. Three years later, however, he was back in Pamplona teaching.

He returned to Ireland not later than 1665, and is not to be confused with his older cousin, and namesake, the superior of the order. As late as 12 October 1669 the general of the order in a letter says: ‘Keep Andrew Sall junior to his duty and make him follow the example of Fr Sall senior’, i.e. his cousin. The Ireland to which he returned was riven with the controversy associated with the loyal remonstrance of the Franciscan Peter Walsh (qv) and others, into which he readily entered. Association with the protestant archbishop Thomas Price (qv) aroused in him many misgivings about aspects of Roman catholic doctrine and practice. Later he acknowledged that he entertained the thought of separation from the Roman catholic church but resolved to spend the remnant of his days ‘retired and unknown to prepare better for the long day of eternity’ (Sall, True catholic and apostolic faith, preface). Later he prepared a paper, not for publication, which ‘dropped from me and fell into the hands of some’ (ibid.) who concluded that he had already become a protestant minister. The exchange of letters that took place between Fr Sall and Fr Stephen Rice in Dundalk is a sad one, Fr Rice offering to make amends for any offence so that ‘union at least of Christianity if not of religion may be entire among us’ (ibid.). For a variety of reasons the breach was not healed.

Sometime in the summer of 1674 Andrew Sall took up residence in TCD. Here he prepared and successfully defended his DD thesis. Here too he came under the protection of Dr John Fell (1625–86), who facilitated the work of scripture translation into various languages then being undertaken in Oxford. In July 1675 Sall took refuge in Oxford, where he remained till 1680. He saw no less than three books of a theological and polemical nature through the press during this period, but it can be no accident that on his return to Ireland he was drawn into translation work.

Sall's return to Ireland was prompted by a desire to assist Robert Boyle (qv) and his sister in their various translation activities. But one last activity he had to leave unfinished was the publication of the translation of the Old Testament by Murtagh King (qv) (Muircheartach Ó Cionga) and Séamas de Nógla (James Nangle), which had been made under the aegis of William Bedell (qv) in the 1630s. The translation had been rescued and preserved by Denis Sheridan (qv) (Donnchadh Ó Sioradáin), a protégé of Bedell, by whom it was given to Henry Jones (qv), bishop of Meath. Sall had already seen the text at Jones's house, and he expressed the view that ‘the Irish version of the Old Testament should be revised’. On the question of register, for instance, he had this to say: ‘This much in general I shall insinuate, that if I were fit to be a translator, of two ends men may aim at in such a work, the one of getting the credit of skill in the primitive ancient Irish, the other of benefiting common readers by expressions now in use, I would choose the latter . . .’ When he first came to examine the manuscript, Sall discovered it to be ‘a confused heap’, had it rebound, and hoped ‘to make up a complete Old Testament with the help of God and Mr Higgin’, i.e. Pól Ó hUigínn (qv), the Irish lecturer at Trinity College. He goes on to speak of what a labour it ‘will be to draw up a clear copy of the whole’.

Sall worked at the text of Bedell's Old Testament during the early months of 1682, and by 7 February he reported that eight chapters of Genesis had been written out from the manuscript ‘in very fair letter as clear as any print’. The scribe Mr Mullan, a bachelor of physic, had agreed to the rate of eleven pence a sheet, with the acquiescence of Dr Narcissus Marsh (qv), provost of Trinity College, and Ó hUigínn. Mullan supplied the first transcriptions under Sall's supervision. He also stayed at Sall's house, and Dr Sall says of himself that he would lay aside other duties so as to attend to this work. Actually he had just over two months left; he never returned to his other work, nor did he finish this work either. But for the time that was left he threw himself into it, both the work on the text and the administration of a subscription list.

In the course of all this Andrew Sall discovered – rather to his surprise at first, it would seem – that the project of making the scriptures available in Irish, and the scheme of proselytisation of which it was an essential instrument, were actually opposed by some within the protestant camp, while others remained at least ambivalent. ‘One of them had the gallantry to tell me in my face, and at my own table, that while I went about to gain the Irish (to God, I mean), I should lose the English.’

From November 1680 till his death (5 April 1682) he lived in Oxmanstown on the north bank of the River Liffey in Young's Castle (Michael Hunter and Edward B. Davis (ed.), The works of Robert Boyle (14 vols, 1999–2000), v, 608).

More information on this entry is available at the National Database of Irish-language biographies (Ainm.ie).

Sources
The doleful fall of Andrew Sall, a Jesuit of the fourth vow, from the Roman Catholick apostolic faith, lamented by his constant friend, Nicholas French (Douai, 1674); The unerring and unerrable church; or, An answer to a sermon preached by Mr Andrew Sall, formerly a Jesuit and now a minister of the protestant church, written by I. S. (1675); Andrew Sall, True catholic and apostolic faith, maintained in the Church of England . . . (1676); id., A sermon preached at Christ-Church in Dublin before the lord lieutenant and council, July 5, 1674; Michael Hunter, Antonio Clericuzio, and Lawrence M. Principe (ed.), The correspondence of Robert Boyle (6 vols, 2001)

Talbot, Peter, c.1618-1680, Roman Catholic archbishop of Dublin and former Jesuit priest

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  • 29 June 1618-15 November 1680

Born: 29 June 1618, Carton, County Kildare / Malahide County Dublin
Entered: c May 1635, Portugal - Lusitaniae Province (LUS)
Ordained: 06 April 1647, Rome Italy
Died: 15 November 1680, Dublin Castle, Dublin, County Dublin

Left Society of Jesus: 29 June 1659

Consecrated Archbishop of Dublin 09 May 1669, Antwerp, Netherlands

Younger brother of John Talbot SJ - RIP 1667

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Talbot, Peter

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Clarke, Aidan

Talbot, Peter (c.1618–1680), churchman, was sixth son of Sir William Talbot (qv), sometime recorder of the city of Dublin, and his wife, Alison Netterville. He entered the Society of Jesus in Portugal in May 1635 and completed his education in Rome, where he was ordained on 6 April 1647 and where he was said (by Oliver Plunkett (qv)) to have proved ‘so troublesome’ that he was sent to Florence for the tertian stage of his probation.

He returned to Portugal before long and went thence to the Spanish Netherlands, where he became involved in the politics, both high and low, of the royalist exiles. His conjoint aims were to secure support from catholic sources for the restoration of Charles II and to persuade Charles to court this support by promising concessions to his catholic subjects. In the early summer of 1653, probably at the prompting of his francophile Franciscan brother Thomas, he submitted proposals to the French ambassador in London and visited Ireland briefly in furtherance of them, but the venture proved fruitless. He returned to London in 1654, this time from Madrid as an agent from Philip IV to the Spanish ambassador, Cardenas. Late in the same year, in Cologne, he acted as an intermediary between the king and the papal nuncio, to whom he hinted that Charles might be prepared to convert to catholicism, and who declined to convey so improbable a message to Rome. In 1656 Talbot exploited his ready access to the Spanish court to advise Charles that a treaty with Spain would be assured if he were secretly to declare his conversion, but the subsequent treaty was concluded on other terms, without Talbot's assistance. From 1655, when his brothers Richard (qv) and Gilbert had been involved in a plot to kill Oliver Cromwell (qv), Talbot had become increasingly committed to promoting the extravagant schemes of the former Leveller Edward Sexby, which ranged from Spanish invasion to the assassination of Cromwell.

After Richard Talbot was admitted to the circle of James (qv), duke of York, Peter came under suspicion of transferring his allegiance to James. In the summer of 1658 he incurred the king's displeasure by making a mysterious visit to Spain on James's behalf, and even greater ambiguity surrounded a visit to England on the fall of the protectorate in April 1659. It appears that Talbot travelled at the instance of ministers of the Spanish government, who were persuaded that he could help to prevent the republicans from gaining control. However, his failure to inform Charles of his mission prompted suspicions that he was either exploring the possibility of a peace between the commonwealth and Spain or intriguing in the interests of York. This episode triggered a final breach with the Society of Jesus. Though Talbot had not yet been professed, a place had been found for him, teaching moral theology in Antwerp, and he had published a number of works of religious controversy, but his political activity had not met with the approval of his superiors. Almost certainly in response to representations from Charles or his advisers, the general instructed him to leave England and ‘dissevered’ him from the order in June when he did not obey. Talbot managed to recover the king's favour in the autumn when he travelled to Fuenterrabia to assist Charles in his efforts to have his interests accommodated in the Franco–Spanish treaty of the Pyrenees. He had returned to the Netherlands and was pursuing further possibilities of securing military backing in May 1660 when Charles was restored.

In September 1660 Talbot took up residence in London, where his involvement in the politics of court faction continued. The king's chief minister, Clarendon, was implacably hostile to him but he enjoyed the patronage of Ormond (qv) and supported the loyal remonstrance promoted by Peter Walsh (qv), with whom he had worked closely in 1659. Appointed queen's almoner shortly after the royal marriage in May 1662, he was dismissed and barred from court less than six months later at the behest of the king's mistress, Lady Castlemaine. As Richard Talbot became increasingly identified with catholic opposition to Ormond in Ireland, Peter became critical of both Ormond and Walsh: he opposed the adoption of the remonstrance in Ireland and associated himself with Clarendon's opponents in England, particularly Buckingham and Arlington, both of whom he had known well on the Continent. Clarendon's fall in August 1667 and Ormond's dismissal from the lord lieutenancy, announced by Charles in February 1669, prepared the way for Talbot's appointment to the archbishopric of Dublin, which coincided with the appointment of Lord Robartes (qv) in place of Ormond. Talbot was consecrated in Antwerp on 9 May and took up his position in Dublin in the autumn, having spent the intervening months in London arguing for an end to the established policy of favouring those clergy who supported the remonstrance. The expectation of a close working relationship with the new lord lieutenant was disappointed when Robartes resigned within six months of his arrival (September 1669) and was replaced by Lord Berkeley (qv). Berkeley, who had known and distrusted Talbot in exile, treated him with the wariness required by his influential connections and dealt so far as possible with Archbishop Plunkett instead. When a general synod of bishops convened in Dublin on 17 June 1670, Talbot pursued his advantage over Walsh and the remonstrants by proposing the adoption of an alternative declaration of temporal allegiance, closely resembling the address that had been rejected by Ormond in 1666; this initiative was accepted by the meeting and formally welcomed by Berkeley (who had approved the declaration in advance at the prompting of Richard Talbot). During the synod Peter Talbot openly challenged the authority of Plunkett, partly by denying the historic primacy of the see of Armagh but also by claiming a royal mandate to oversee the conduct of the Irish clergy. The practical difficulty was resolved by having the decisions issued in the name of the bishop of Ossory, as secretary of the meeting, rather than that of the primate. The jurisdictional dispute was considered by the congregation of Propaganda Fide on 2 August 1672, when judgement was reserved and the protagonists were bound to silence. Later in the year, Bishop John O'Molony (qv) of Killaloe brokered an uneasy reconciliation between the rivals.

For some years, Talbot exercised his pastoral charge openly, holding provincial synods in 1670 and 1671, conducting a visitation in the latter year, and convening a number of meetings of clergy after Berkeley's replacement in August 1672 by the earl of Essex (qv). In February 1671 he presided at a meeting of nobles convened to arrange financial support for Richard Talbot's representation of catholic interests in London and took the opportunity to propose that the clergy should be required to contribute. His struggle with the remonstrants continued: he was charged with exercising foreign jurisdiction by a number of Franciscans in January 1671 and successfully defended before the council by Sir Nicholas Plunkett (qv). In the late summer of 1672 he excommunicated the Dominican prior of Kilcock, John Byrne, placed the parish under interdict, and prevailed on his nephew, a justice of the peace, to have Byrne committed to jail. On 26 March 1673 the English commons, as part of its response to Charles's declaration of indulgence, demanded that Talbot should be banished ‘for his notorious disloyalty and disobedience and contempt of the laws’ and in the following month, with the encouragement of the administration, Fr Byrne charged him with exercising a foreign jurisdiction and with raising money contrary to law. A committee appointed by Essex took evidence of Talbot's conduct in May 1673. The charges were found to have been proven and his claim to have authority from England ‘for punishing and correcting the popish clergy’ was judged untrue on the testimony of Oliver Plunkett, who had been so assured by Talbot's successor as queen's almoner, Lord Philip Howard. Talbot had applied for and received a pass to travel to France in April; he left Ireland in June, secured letters of recommendation to Louis XIV from both Charles and the duke of York, and arrived in France by September.

Supported by a royal pension of £200, he wrote a number of works of religious controversy, published his statement of the case for Dublin's right to the primacy, and addressed a pastoral letter to his diocese in May 1674. By March 1676 he had moved to England, where he lived in declining health as a guest of Sir James Pool in Cheshire for two years before receiving permission from Ormond (again lord lieutenant) to return to Ireland in May 1678 on condition that he did not interfere in temporal matters. He lived privately in his brother Richard's house at Luttrellstown till 11 October, when he was arrested on foot of an accusation that he was implicated in the ‘popish plot’, with particular responsibility for the murder of the duke of Ormond. The charge was without foundation but there was an irony, not lost on Ormond, in the fact that Peter had been suspected of complicity in a threat to take Ormond's life for which Richard had been imprisoned in 1664. Peter remained in prison in Dublin without trial till his death (25 October × 22 November 1680), some weeks after he had received sacramental absolution from his erstwhile rival and fellow prisoner, Oliver Plunkett.

Sources
Bodl., Carte MS 38; Peter Walsh, The history and vindication of the loyal formulary or Irish remonstrance (1674); T. Carte, The life of James, duke of Ormond (1735–6); id., A collection of original letters and papers (1739); L. F. Renehan, Collections on Irish church history, i: Irish archbishops (1861); Calendar of the Clarendon state papers preserved in the Bodleian Library, ii–v (1869–1970); P. F. Moran (ed.), Spicilegium Ossoriense (1874); HMC, Rep. 10, app. 5, Jesuit archives (1885); P. F Moran, Memoir of the Ven. Oliver Plunkett (1895); CSPD, 1672–3, 1678; HMC, Ormonde MSS, ii; new ser., v (1908); Eva Scott, The travels of the king (1907); P. W. Sergeant, Little Jennings and Fighting Dick Talbot (1913); William P. Burke, The Irish priests in the penal times (1914); Benignus Millett, The Irish Franciscans, 1651–1665 (1964); id., Survival and reorganization, 1650–95 (1968); C. Petrie, The great Tyrconnell (1972); John Hanly (ed.), The letters of Saint Oliver Plunkett (1979)

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :

DOB Carton, Kildare; Ent 1635 Portugal; RIP 1680 Newgate prison - LEFT 29/06/1659 “justis de causis”, but wished to return

Son of William 1st Baron of Carton and Alison née Netterville. Brother of John SJ. Brother of Richard, first Duke of Tyrconnell by James II and Viceroy of Ireland. Brother Sir Robert 2nd Baron of Carton. (HIB CATS and Dr Peter Talbot’s “Friar Disciplined”) Cousins of th Netterville’s SJ.

He rendered good service to Charles II while exiled, and a letter from the King to him is given in Thurloe’s State Papers Vol i p 662. He is also alluded to in another paper in the same volume, p 752.
On the death of Thomas Fleming Archbishop of Dublin, Pope Clement IX appointed Peter as Archbishop on 02/05/1669.

1638 Came to Irish Mission and was a good Preacher, Confessor and Professor of Humanities.

1658 On 30/041658 he arrived at the Professed House Antwerp from Ireland (BELG CAT)

1680 He died at Newgate prison Dublin for the faith. He wished to reenter the Society from which he had been dismissed “justis de causis”. “Father Peter Talbot in England, though he did not belong to the English Province, was dismissed by order of Father General 29/06/1659”. (CAT Tertius of ANG 1659-1660. (cf Hogan’s List)

Dr Talbot in his “Friar Disciplined” says to the famous Peter Walsh “Mr Walsh, Father John Talbot, of whom you said when he died (as if it were a rarity of kind of miracle) ‘There lies a honest Jesuit’ assured me, that, after his brother Sir Robert Talbot Had...”
Dr Talbot in his “Haeresis Blackloiana” p 250 says that he himself had studied in Rome with such gifted Jesuits (orbis miracula) as Tirrell, Maurus, Telin (an Irishman - Teeling?), and the younger Palavicino, and was appointed to teach Philosophy at Évora, which has given so many outstanding Theologians to England and Ireland, and amongst others, Father John Talbot, my brother, a distinguished defender of the Roman Faith”
In his treatise on “Religion and Government” p 557, Dr Talbot says he saw the Martyr, Father Mastrilli, in Lisbon on his way to India, and heard him tell his story of his cure by St Xaverius.

(For his literary works see de Backer “Biblioth. des Écrivains SJ”, and for a fuller account see Oliver, Stonyhurst MSS)

Dr Talbot’s Letter to Peter Walsh in his “Friar Disciplined”
“As to Friar Walsh, his no less ridiculous than malicious observations and comments upon my devotion and respect to the Most reverend Father Oliva and the whole Society - I must own to the whole world I should be as ill as a man and as a great liar as Walsh himself (and that is the worst that can be said of any man), if I did not esteem very much and speak well of the virtues and learning of the Society. Few can speak with ore knowledge and none with less impartiality. I have lived in their most famous Colleges, and taught in some. I never was in any College or community of theirs where there was not one or more of known eminent sanctity, many of extraordinary virtue, and none that I knew vicious. I always found their Superiors charitable and sincere, their Procurators devout, their Professors humble though learned, their young Masters of Humanity and Students of Philosophy and Divinity very chaste, and if any gave the least suspicion of being otherwise, he was presently dismissed, It is my greatest admiration how so great a body, so generally employed and trusted by the greatest princes, so conversant in the world (according to their holy Institute) can savour so little of it and live so innocently as they do, and even forsake the best part of it, Europe their many conveniences and relations (who are illustrious) and banish themselves to Asia, Africa and America, upon no other account of saving souls. In their schools they teach not those infamous doctrines which that foul mouthed FW asperseth their authors with and says I do practice, but are very reserved in delivering any larger opinion, even of the most famous writers, for fear men should abuse an misapply their authority. This is the substance of what I have said and must say if I will speak truth of an Order, wherein I have lived many years in great content, and truly so innocently (through God’s grace and their example) that the greatest sin I can charge myself with during my abode among them, is the resolution I took of leaving them, though (perhaps erroneously) I framed then a judgement that the circumstances di excuse it from being mortal”... (Hogan’s note)

◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
TALBOT, PETER, son of Sir William Talbot, and Brother of the Richard Talbot, who was created Duke of Tyrconnell by King James the Second, and Viceroy of Ireland. Peter was born in the County of Dublin, in 1620. At the age of 15 he enrolled himself in Portugal, amongst the children of St. Ignatius. After his promotion to the Priesthood, he was employed to teach Moral Theology at Antwerp. He had reached London in the spring of 1651, and was preparing to pass over to Ireland on some secret service and commission of Jean IV King of Portugal, and I find him described in a letter of the 29th of April that year as sapientia, pietate et zelo tanto oneri parem. His letter from Cologne, written on the 17th of November, 1654, shews how fully he possessed the confidence of his legitimate Sovereign Charles the Second, then a resident in that City. That his Majesty was then disposed to favour his Catholic subjects, whom he had found to be most faithful to his person and most zealously attached to Monarchial Government, is certain nay, that he was favourably disposed towards their religion is not improbable; but I see no cause for crediting the assertion of the learned author of the Hibcrnia Dominicana, p.711, that the King was reconciled to the Catholic Church by F. Peter Talbot, at Cologne, in the year 1656. There is too much reason to believe, that the King’s was but a death bed conversion.

About the period of the Restoration of his Sovereign, whose interests he had long and most diligently served, and promoted F. Talbot obtained “justis de causis” a dispensation from his vows; but his affection for the Society of Jesus continued unabated. On the death of Dr. Thomas Fleming, Archbishop of Dublin, Pope Clement IX named Dr. Talbot, on the 2nd of May, 1669, to fill that vacant see. His zeal for the advancement of Religion, and for his Country’s welfare (for he was a true patriot), procured him many enemies in those days of intolerance and bigotry. With his pen he was indefatigable, as the list of his works, which he himself supplied for insertion in Southwell’s Bibliotheca Scriptorum Societatis Jesu (p.702) abundantly proves. In consequence of K. Charles IInd’s Proclamation for the banishment of all Bishops and Religious from Ireland, his Grace repaired to the continent; and I find by his original letter, dated the 29th of December, 1673, from Paris, that his Sovereign, as well as James Duke of York, had recommended him to the most Christian King, and even in letters written with their own hands, to provide him with a Benefice becoming his station, and that he had then actually delivered them. How long he remained abroad I cannot determine; but I read in a Journal, formerly kept at Watten, near St. Omer, the following memorandum : “AD 1676, Feb. 24. My Lord Primate of Ireland, Lord Talbot came here from St. Omer, with F. Retor and F. Ireland”. Soon after his return to Ireland, whilst labouring under great bodily infirmity, he was seized in his brother s house at Carr Town, County Kildare, removed in a chair, and committed a close prisoner, as an accomplice in Oates Plot !!! Harris, (p.197, Book I. Writers of Ireland) with all his prejudices, admits that “nothing appeared against him from his examinations, nor from those of others”. Still the wicked policy of the Sovereign allowed this faithful subject* and old friend to linger for two years in confinement within the walls of Newgate, Dublin, where he died in 1680. See the honorable testimony, p. 131, of the Hibernia Dominicana, to this most injured character. Dr. Patrick Russell was elected his successor in the Archbishopric on the 2nd of August, 1683.
Whilst a Father of the Society of Jesus, he published :

  1. “A Treatise of the nature of Catholic Faith and Heresie, with Reflection upon the Nullitie of the English Protestant Church and Clergy” Svo Rouen, 1657. pp. 89.
  2. “The Polititians Catechisme for his Instruction in Divine Faith and Morale Honesty”. Svo. Antwerp, 1658, pp.193. Dodd, p. 284, vol. iii. Church History might have improved his article, had he paid more attention to the spirit of F. Southwell’s Narrative, which lay open before him.
  • This Luminary of the O.S.D. Dr. Thomas Burke was born in Dublin, in 1709, and succeeded Dr. James Dunne in the See of Ossory, in 1759. He was consecrated at Drogheda by the Primate Anthony Blake, on Low Sunday, the 22nd. of April, that year, and died at his house in Maudlin Street, Kilkenny, on Wednesday, the 25th of September, 1776. This compilation 4to. pp. 797, was actually printed at Kilkenny, from the press of James Stokes (although the title page sets out that it issued from the Metternick Print-office at Cologne) in 1762. Ten years later, a Supplement was printed at Kilkenny, I think by Edmund Finn, which increases the whole work to 949 pages. The Historical Part is valuable Indeed; but the political tendency of the work excited great uneasiness and alarm in the Bishops and Clergy of Ireland. Seven of the Prelates met at Thurles, and signed a declaration on the 28th day of July, 1775, expressive of their disapproval of the Publication as tending to weaken and subvert the fidelity and allegiance due to their gracious Sovereign George III. and to disturb the Public peace and tranquillity, and to give a handle to their opponents to impute principles that they utterly reject, and which are unfounded in the Doctrines of the Catholic Church. See the Anthologia Hibernica for February, 1793, p. 96

  • The honour of the reconciliation is due to the Benedictines.That holy Missionary, Benedict Gibbon, (born at Westcliffe, in Kent; professed at Lambspring, on the 21st of March, 1672; deceased 1st of January, 1723), whilst dining with F. Mansuet, O.S.F., Confessor to James, Duke of York, desired him to go to his Royal Highness and advise him to propose to the King, then near his end, whether he did not desire to die in the Communion of the Catholic Church. The Duke did so; and the consequence was, that F. John Huddleston concluded this reconciliation. The seeds of this Conversion were probably sown at Mosely. During the King’s concealment there, he had much interesting conversation with F. Hudleston the Chaplain.

  • To the Editor of the Catholic Miscellany for 1826, the public is indebted for reprinting the admirable Pastoral Letter of this loyal Archbishop of Dublin, dated Paris, May 2nd, 1674. See pp 66. 72.

Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

He was the younger brother of Father John Talbot SJ, and was born June 29, 1618, and entered the Society at Lisbon, c May 1635. Before his admission to the Novitiate he had already begun his Philosophical studies.

After his Noviceship he resumed his Philosophy course at Coimbra, and according to the Portuguese triennian Catalogus of 1642, was reading Theology, but that source does not say where. In 1645 he was teaching Latin in Lisbon and was not yet a Priest, and it is possible that he interrupted his Theological studies to make his Regency. In any event, he was not ordained Priest until April 1648. The following year he was sent to the Roman Province to make his tertianship at Florence. Thereafter he identified himself with the cause of Charles II.

He was in Ireland in 1652, and for some time the following year. Afterward, his name appears in only one Catalogue, that of Flanders in 1655, when he was a Military Chaplain. The contemporary correspondence shows that his journeyings and negotiations for the Royalist cause earned him the disapproval of the General. He was finally dismissed from the Society on June 29, 1659.

His departure from the Society, however, was friendly, and ever after, his relations with his former colleagues in Ireland were most amicable. he eventually became Archbishop of Dublin, 1669, and died a prisoner for the Faith on November 15, 1680, at Dublin Castle.

The cause for his beatification is before the Holy See.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Talbot_(bishop)

Portrait of Peter Talbot, c. 1660, located in Malahide Castle
Church Catholic Church
Archdiocese Archdiocese of Dublin
Appointed 1669
Orders
Ordination c. 1647
Consecration 9 May 1669
Personal details
Born 1618/1620
Malahide, County Dublin, Ireland
Died 15 November 1680
Dublin Castle, Dublin, Ireland
Peter Talbot (1618/1620 – 15 November 1680) was the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Dublin from 1669 to his death in prison. He was a victim of the Popish Plot.

Early life
Talbot was born at Malahide in 1618[1][2] or 1620[3][4][5] to Sir William Talbot and his wife Alison (née Netterville).[2][3][5] In May 1635, he entered the Society of Jesus in Portugal.[3][2][5] He was ordained a priest at Rome on either 6 April 1647[2] or 6 June 1648.[1]

According to archbishop Oliver Plunkett, Talbot proved ‘so troublesome’ that he was made to carry out the tertian stage of his probation in Florence.[2]

Talbot held the chair of theology at the College of Antwerp.[3][4][5] In the meantime during the Commonwealth period, Charles II and the royal family were compelled to seek refuge in Europe. Throughout the period of the king's exile, Talbot's brothers were attached to the royal court. The eldest brother, Sir Robert Talbot, 2nd Baronet, had held a high commission under James Butler, 1st Duke of Ormond in the army in Ireland and was reckoned among the king's most confidential advisers. A younger brother, Richard Talbot, later 1st Earl of Tyrconnell, was also devoted to the cause of the exiled monarch and stood high in royal favour.[4]

Appointments
Peter Talbot himself was constantly in attendance on Charles II and his court. On account of his knowledge of the continental languages, he was repeatedly dispatched to private embassies in Lisbon, Madrid, and Paris. On the return of the king to London, Talbot received an appointment as Queen's Almoner, but the Clarendon and Ormond faction, which was then predominant, feared his influence with the king. He was accused of conspiring with four Jesuits to assassinate the Duke of Ormond, and he was forced to seek safety by resigning his position at Court and retiring to continent Europe. The king allowed him a pension of three hundred pounds a year. Before his return to England, Talbot had, with the approval of the General of the Jesuits, severed his connection with the Society.[4]

He was appointed Archbishop of Dublin in 1669. Sources differ on the exact date - 11 January,[4] 8 March[1] or 2 May.[3] Talbot was consecrated in Antwerp on 9 May 1669,[2][5] assisted by the Bishops of Ghent and Ferns.[4][5]

Catholic persecution
During this period, the English treatment of Catholics in Ireland was more lenient than usual, owing to the known sympathies of the King (who entered the Catholic Church on his deathbed). In August 1670, Talbot held his first Diocesan Synod in Dublin. It was opened with High Mass, which for forty years many of the faithful had not witnessed. In the same year, an assembly of the archbishops and bishops and representatives of the clergy was held in Dublin. At this assembly, the question of precedence and of the primatial authority gave rise to considerable discussion and led to an embittered controversy between the Archbishop of Dublin and Oliver Plunkett, Archbishop of Armagh.[4] The subject had been one of great controversy in the Middle Ages, but had been in abeyance for some time.[citation needed] Both prelates considered that they were asserting the rights of their respective sees, and each published a treatise on the subject. Another meeting of the Catholic gentry was convened by Talbot, at which it was resolved to send to the Court at London a representative who would seek redress for some of the grievances to which the Catholics of Ireland were subjected. This alarmed the Protestants in Ireland, who feared that the balance of power might shift to the Catholic majority. They protested to King Charles, and in 1673 some of the repressive measures against Irish Catholics were reinstated, and Talbot was compelled to seek safety in exile.[4]

Exile, arrest and death
During his banishment, he resided generally in Paris. In 1675, Talbot, in poor health, obtained permission to return to England, and for two years he resided with a family friend at Poole Hall in Cheshire. Towards the end of 1677, he petitioned the Crown for leave "to come to Ireland to die in his own country", and through the influence of James, Duke of York his request was granted.[4]

Shortly after that, the Popish Plot was hatched by Titus Oates, and information was forwarded to James Butler, 1st Duke of Ormond as Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, to the effect that a rebellion was being planned in Ireland, that Peter Talbot was one of the accomplices, and that assassins had been hired to murder the Duke himself. Ormond was in private deeply sceptical of the Popish Plot's existence, remarking that Talbot was too ill to carry it out.[4] Of the alleged assassins, Ormond stated that they were such "silly drunken vagabonds" that "no schoolboy would trust them to rob an orchard"; but he thought it politically unwise to show his doubts publicly. Though he was sympathetic to Oliver Plunkett, who was also arrested in connection with the alleged Plot and was later to die on the scaffold, he had always been hostile to Talbot.[6]

On 8 October 1678, Ormond signed a warrant for Talbot's arrest.[6][4] He was arrested at Cartown near Maynooth at the house of his brother, Colonel Richard Talbot, and was then moved to Dublin Castle.[4]

For two years Talbot remained in prison without trial, where he fell ill.[4][2] Despite their long friendship, Charles II, fearful of the political repercussions, made no effort to save him.[6] Talbot was held in an adjoining cell to Oliver Plunkett. The two archbishops reconciled as fellow prisoners, setting aside their disagreements as expressed in their treatises.[4]

From his prison cell, Talbot had written on 12 April 1679, petitioning that a priest be allowed to visit him, as he was bedridden for months and was now in imminent danger of death. The petition was refused, but Plunkett, on hearing of Talbot's dying condition, forced his way through the warders and administered to the dying prelate the last consolations of the sacraments.[4][2] Talbot died in prison on 15 November 1680.[6][1][2][4]

Legacy
Talbot is said to have been interred in the churchyard of St. Audoen's Church, close by the tomb of Rowland FitzEustace, 1st Baron Portlester.[4]

(1) Cheney, David M. "Archbishop Peter Talbot". www.catholic-hierarchy.org. Retrieved 1 January 2024.

(2) Clarke, Aidan. "Talbot, Peter". Dictionary of Irish Biography.

(3) Oliver, George (1838). Collections towards illustrating the biography of the Scotch, English, and Irish members, of the Society of Jesus. C. Dolman. ISBN 978-1333240035.

(4) Moran, Francis (1912). "Peter Talbot" . Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 14.

(5) Bagwell, Richard (1898). "Talbot, Peter" . Dictionary of National Biography. Vol. 55. pp. 327–329.

(6) Kenyon, J.P. (2000). The Popish Plot. Phoenix Press Reissue. p. 225.

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
TALBOT, PETER, Father (Irish), born at Carton, in Kildare, 1620; entered the Society in Portugal, 1635. (Hogan's list.) He was son of Sir William Talbot, and brother of Richard Talbot, who was created first Duke of Tyrconnell by King James II.
This Father rendered good service to Charles II, when an exile, and a letter from the King to him is given in Thurloe's State Papers, vol. i. p. 662. He is also alluded to in another paper in p. 752 of the same vol. Upon the death of Dr. Thomas Fleming, Archbishop of Dublin, Pope Clement IX, appointed Father Peter Talbot to fill the vacant Archbishopric on May 2, 1669. For his literary works see Father Southwell's Bibl. Scriptorum .7., and Father de Backer's Biblioth. des Ecrivains 5.7., and for a fuller account see Oliver, from Stonyhurst MSS. On April 30, 1658, he arrived from Ireland at the Professed House, Antwerp. (Belgian Catalogue.) He died in Newgate Prison, Dublin, for the Catholic faith, in 1680. He wished to re-enter the Society, from which he had been dismissed, justis de causis. (Hogan's list) " Father Peter Talbot in England, although he did not belong to the English Province, was dismissed by order of the Rev. Father General, June 29, 1659."-Catalogus Tertius of the English Province for 1659-60. See Hogan's Irish list for further particulars. (1)

Talbot, John, born in 1611, in county Kildare, probably at Carton, the seat of his father, Sir W. Talbot, Bart. ; entered the Socięty in 1632; came to the Irish Mission in 1638; was a good preacher, Confessarius and Professor of Humanities; was brother of Sir Robert Talbot, Bart., Richard, Duke of Tyrconnell, Viceroy of Ireland, and Peter, Archbishop of Dublin. (Irish Catalogues S.J. Dr. Talbot's Friar Disciplined,) He died between 1666 and 1674 ; since Dr. Talbot, in his Friar Disciplined, published in 1674, says to the famous Peter Walsh : “Jr. Walsh, Father John Talbot, of whom you said when he died (as if it yere & rarity or kind of miracle). There lies a honest Jesuit,' assuredi me, that, after his brother, Sir Robert Talbot, hari," etc. Again, Dr. Talbot, in his Horosis Blackloiana, says he himself had studied in Konie with such gifted Jesuits (orbis miracula) as Tirrell, Maurus, Telin (an Irishman), and the younger Palavicino, and was appointed to reach philosophy at the University of Evora, which has given so many orthodox theologians to England and Ireland, and amongst others Father John Talbot, my brother, a distinguished defender of the Roman Faith." (Hurusis Blacklinna, P. 250.) In his Treatise on Religion and Government, p. 557, Dr. Talbot says he saw the martyr, Father Mastrilli, in Lisbon, on his way to India, and heard him tell the story of his cure by St. Xavcrius. All these Talbots were cousins of the Fathers Netterville, S.).

The Gilbert Talbot of the Society, who cannot be identified in the English Catalogues, was perhaps a brother of Peter's, who had been a Colonel in the Irish army in the “Forty-one Wars" (1641), and, says Clarendon, was looked upon as a man of courage, having fought a dud or trvo with stond men. I think there were three John Talbots S.J., as follows: (1) John Tallxot, born 1609; entered 1626, in Portugal. (2) John Talbot, born in Kildare, 1611; entered 1632; came to mission in 1638. (3) John Talbot, born 1619; entererl circ. 1637; one of them was a brother of Peter's, the two others were probably an uncle and a cousin of his.

Dr. Talbot's Laler to Peter Walsh in the " Friar Disciplined,"
As to Friar Walsh, his no less ridiculous than malicious observations and comments upon my devotion and respect to the most Reverend Father Oliva and the whole Society--I must own to the whole world I should be as ill a man and as great a liar as Walsh himself (and that is the worst that can le said of any man), if I did not cstcem very much and speak Hell of the virtue and learning of the society. Fow can speak with more knowledge, and none with less impartiality. I have been in most of their Provinces of Europe. I have lived in their most famous Colleges, and taught in some. I never was in any College or community of theirs where there was not ne or more of known eminent sanctity, inany of extraordinary virtue, wul none that I know vicious. I always found their Superiors charitable and sincere, their l'rocurators (levout, their l'rofessors humble though learnul, their young Masters of Ifumarity and Students of Philosophy and Divinity very chasic, and if any pare the least suspicion of being utlicrwise, he was presently dismissed. It is ny greatest aclınira tion how so great a lody, so generally employed and trusted by the greatest princes, so einversant in the world (according to their holy Institute). can savour so little of it and live so innocently as they do: and cten forsake the best part of it, kurope, their many conveniences and relations (who are illustrious), and lanish themselves to Asia, Africa, and America, tupun no other account but that of Sving souls. In their schools they tanch not those infanious (loctrines which that foul-momhed F. . asperseth their authors with, and says I do practise, frut are very reserved in delivering any larger opinion even of the most famous writers, for fear men should alsuse and misapply their authority. This is the substance of what I always said and must say if I will speak truth of an Order wherein I have lived many years in great content, and truly so innocently (through God's grace and their example!, that the greatest sin I can charge myself with during my alade among them, is the resolution I took of leaving them, thouyl (perhaps erroneously) I framed then a judgment that the circumstances did excuse it from being inorlal," etc. (This note is furnished by I'r. Hogan.)

White, James, 1681-, former Jesuit Priest of the Castellanae Province

  • Person
  • 08 May 1681-

Born: 08 May 1681, Trim, County Meath
Entered: 06 March 1703, Salamanca, Spain - Castellanae Province (CAST)
Ordained: c 1713

Left Society of Jesus: 01 November 1716

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773
He was the son of Raphael Evers and Joan White, and he was born at Trim, May 8, 1681. He entered the Society in the Province of Castile, March 6, 1703. As he was accepted for the Society at Salamanca, he is probably identical with a James White at the Irish College, who was approved in September 1702 to pass into second-year Theology.

After 1705 there is no means of tracing his career in Spain, beyond the fact that he was ordained Priest.

In 1714 he left his Province unauthorised and went to St Germain, but was induced by the General to go to the Irish College of Poitiers. During his stay there, the General negotiated with the Provincial of Aquitaine to emply White teaching Philosophy, for which he had some aptitude (he was a nephew of James White SJ). His anxiety, however, was to get back to Ireland to help, as he alleged, his widowed mother and sister.

He left the Society in the winter of 1716/1717

◆ MacErlean Cat Miss HIB SJ 1670-1770
1705 CAST Cat
Royal College Salamanca
“Didacus Vitus”
Born 08/05/1681 Meath
Entered 06/03/1703 Salmanaca
Teaching Grammar 1

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
James Evers alias White 21
Son of Raphael Evers and Joan White (Blanco), Trim dioc of Meath
06 March 1703 Entered CAST

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Carton XII O
25/06/1714 Anthony Knowles (at New Ross) to Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini
Fr Didacus White Evers has recently fled from Castile. Fr General has grounds for fearing he has gone to Ireland and is acting unworthily of the Society. He is to be expelled, unless as Fr General hopes, he returns to a house of the Society.

18/08/1714 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Anthony Knowles
Fr James White is committing himself and his case to Fr General. Fr Knowles need not be anxious about his arrival or of carrying out the sentence intimated on 23 June. If he has arrived in Ireland, Knowles is to order him to return to France.
He speaks of how Ours should approach a request (such as that to Fr Hennessy) and there should be consultation with Fr Knowles, and at the same time allow him to exeercise jurisdiction as requested.
He sympathises with the current unrest for Ours and clergy in ireland, and prays that some calm may come.

18/08/1714 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
Fr James White on Fr General’s orders recently arrived from Spain at Poitiers College. He asks that Fr lavallin would receive him with charity, and at the same time be diligently watchful over his character and way of life, and to inform Fr General from time to time.

18/08/1714 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to James White Evers (at St Germain)
He is to go to Irish College Poitiers from where he is currently staying. He will be expected there and charitably received by Fr Lavallin, according to Fr General’s instruction. He wishes Fr White to move there promptly.

29/12/1714 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
He is pleased by Father Lavallin’s praise of Fr James White. If Fr White is of such a disposition and acharacter, he will not be troublesome to Lavallin, and while he cannot be useful, he should not be idle. So I will recommend him to Fr Knowles to use his work in teaching philosophy somewhere. In turn, I ask of you if it can be done, to please receive into the Seminaryt an Irish youth, who will be entrusted to you in my name.
Fr Knowles has rightly been advised by you concerning the defects of Fr Thomas Hennessy, who I hope will see to it, by an opportune admonition, to show himself more unassuming in future.

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Carton XII P
23/02/1715 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
Acknowledges letter of 14 January. Le Tellier’s liberality towards Poitiers : If the Hughes money is generating an income, then I give permission for 30 gold to be received from it to complete the Chapel. If not, then you will have to wait, for I consider than nothing should be taken from the capital sum.
I hope for better things for Father White when he is applied to a determined office.
He asks him to inform Fr John Daly that jo change is to be made to what has been decreed about Masses.

04/05/1715 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
Adresses some confusion over a sum of 30 gold from the Hughes monies to be used to finish the new Chapel. Fr General wants it clear that this money is only to come from dividends, or money belonging to Poitiers which is lying idle in Paris, and at no stage should the capital sum be touched, or indeed that proportion of monies intended for other purposes.
He advises that Fr Knowles will determine whether and in what offices Fr White should be employed,
He thanks him for agreeing to accept the youth sent to hi by Fr Hennessy.

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Carton XII Q
14/03/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to James White Evers
I pity you much, because as you wrote in January, your mother and sisters are so oppressed by poverty, I cannot praise highly enough your dutifulness by which you desire to help them.. However, I do not see my way at all to be able to grant what you ask to be permitted you for that purpose, while in these times everything is in confusion in those parts and the outcome of things uncertain. I shall recommend however, to Fr Superior (Knowles) to whom I am soon writing, that he himself come to their aid. He will do so, I hope, in his charity very gladly and for his means very liberally.

14/03/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
That missing letter of January has now arrived. Father Provincial has not yet written anything about the keeping of the entire interest of 1,000 livres for this house, but rather from his information, I consider that such is the state of this house, that it could without inconveninces do without that share which is failing on account of the diminution of the Hughes returns. I am writing again to him, however, that he let me know his judgement which you intimate you have heard is favourable.
Permission to expose the Blessed Sacrament on hte Feats of Our Saints cannot on any account be granted. There are other exercises in addition for which the Chapel was usefully permitted and built. At the utmonst that could be permitted and carried out on the Feast of St patrick, patron of the Irish Mission.
I have no reply to make concerning Fr Lavery after I let you know, on many other occasions, my determination.
Fr James White can on no account be allowed to go to Ireland because of the circumstances of the very unsuitable time. I shall recommend however, the poverty of his mother and sisters to Fr Knowles. Besides, I trust, that by your dexterity, he may grow strong in character and learning, apply himself to something to be directed by you.
Whether the management of your affairs in Paris should be taken away from him who has up to now conducted them and a separate Procurator established, or should be entrusted to some extern, or for those reasons whioch you wrote to me on the contrary, on 15 July last year, we must ponder much and long, and before anything is decided, we must enquire whether any extern can be found whose trustworthiness and prudence you affairs can safely be committed. Furthermore, restitution of the loss from the withdrawal of the fifth “as” should not even be attempted at this time without obtaining the assistance of Fr de Guenin.

21/03/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Anthony Knowles
Received Fr Knowles’ letter of 23 December, and though it brought me some consolation beacuse of the praise bestowed on Ours, far greater, however, is the anxiety for you which boththat letter and observation of the state of the present times aroused in me. We are disposed to hope that God will keep you under his protection.
I grant Fr James Byrne permission to receive the annual subsidy which was bequeathed to him by his late father. I desire however, that in keeping or spending the same, as far as is possible, our statutes be observed.
It is well that Simon Read will arrive. I have not yet been informed as to the reasons why Fr Ignatius Roche has been detained.
Fr Thomas Hennessy can be admitted on August 15th to the grade befitting his doctrine, for that is the earliest time in whcih he will fulfill the requisite conditions for that grade. As regards the privileges wanted by him, you can inform him that I make him a participant of all which are in my power, with that exception which I hold in order to set up Sodalities. Amongst those however, were not those set forth 3-7 -- we will try to have these obtained if possible. Besides, he will have to be advised that in order to their right use and any right to them, he ought to consult the Compendium itself of our privileges, but it will be necessary that he will remember that fact that the work of Fr Archdekin is at least under censure, and accordingly, it is not enough to trust his assertions, unless for other reasons that those which he asserts have really been granted.
On this occasion I let you know, that not only because of your venerable age, but also the circumstances of these very difficult times, it is expedient for me to have knowledge of those wuch as who can be your successor in Office. And so I ask of you, that with your Consultors, you propose candidates to me in the customary way, and see to it that Fr Lavallin does likewise with his Consultors.
Father James Le Blanc alias White junior has earnestly begged of me to be allowed to go to Ireland to relieve the very great poverty of his mother and sister. It seemed that on no account should that be allowed. I have promised, however, that I would recommend them to your charity and generosity.

13/06/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to James White Evers
I do not know if the change of your present status will be so advantageous to you and yours, as perhaps you promise and imagine. Explain, however, please, the reasons for your judgement t Fr Provincial. On receiving his opinion, I will decide about what is shall have seemed right in the Lord to arrange. Meantime, I pray that you be enlightened and directed by the grace of the Holy Spirit.

13/06/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Xavier de la Grandville (Provinical of Aquitaine)
Fr James White junior in his most recent letter to me has begged for his dismissal from the Society, having stated as his reasons : besides the poverty of his mother and sister who are looking for help from him, the great distress inflicted on him by Fr Lavery, and the latter’s unbridled bad temper. It will certainly be known, at least in part to you, what you must hold concerning the reasons adduced, and what the Society must expect from that man. So, I ask you to let me know what you think of him, and whether or not you judge his dismissal should be for the greater good of the Society. He will consult with you on this matter if he obeys my will.

22/08/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Xavier de la Grandville (Provinical of Aquitaine)
Fr de la Grandville empowered to release James White from the Society.

02/10/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
You write in your letter of 26 August that more Fathers who are engaged in Ireland are not known to you, and of those whom you know, you consider none suitable for the office of Rector, I have in the meantime to know who, from reports, in the common estimation seems fit to you for that office.
The decision about Fr James White you will have already learned, or will learn from the Provincial of Aquitaine.

03/10/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Charles Lavery
Fr General acknowledges Fr Knowles’ letter of 06 July, and it is a consolation to know our affairs are still succeeding, and that circumstances have not caused additional difficulty for Ours.
I am happy that what I wrote to you about privileges has been communicated to Fr Hennessy.
Your exhortations seem to have little effect on Fr James Evers (White), and we have seen fit to decide concerning him what you will have already learned, or will know soon.

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Carton XII R
06/02/1717 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
Writes that Fr Lavallin merits thanks for his administration, and gives a pardon for any faults. He exhorts him to continue his work of forming youth until his successor arrives.
It is well that James White was dismissed with charity.

White, John, 1604-, Jesuit Priest of the Toletanae Province

  • Person
  • 1604-

Born: 1604, Clonmel, County Tipperary
Entered: 1620, Madrid, Spain (TOLE)
Ordained: 1628, Murcia, Spain

Left Society of Jesus: 27 August 1643

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as Ent 1620 x 2

◆ Old/15 (1) Ent 1620 x 2, with one RIP after 1636

◆ Old/16 has : “P John White”; DOB 1603 Clonmel; Ent 1620 Toledo; RIP 1640 & 1646

◆ Old/17 has “White” Dimissi 27/08/1643 (HIB)

◆ CATSJ I-Y has “White or Devictus”; DOB 1603 Lismore Dioc; Ent “Devictus” 1620 Madrid - called “Ionn Vitus” TOLE;
1625 At Murcia
1633 Age 33 Soc 13 at Huerte College TOLE teaching Grammar and Operarius. Very good talent.

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

He was born in Clonmel in 1604, and he entered the Society in the Province of Toledo, 1620.

After his Noviceship, which he made at Madrid, he was sent to the College of Murcia for his ecclesiastical studies, and was ordained Priest c 1628.

He remained in Spain until 1634, and was employed as Operarius successively at Huete and Ocaña, and was reported to be in poor health.

On his return to Ireland he exercised his ministry in or near Clonmel, where he taught school for some time. But, over the next eight or nine years, Father White repeatedly asked to leave the Society for reasons of health.

He finally left the Society August 27, 1643.

-oOo-

DOB 1604 Clonmel; Ent 1620 Madrid; Ord c 1628 Murcia; LEFT 27/08/1643

1622-1628 After First Vows he was sent to Murcia for studies and he was ordained there c 1628
1628-1634 He was sent as Operarius to Huete and Ocaña and reported to be in poor health
1634 He was sent to Ireland and Clonmel and repeatly asked permission to leave the Society for reasons of health. He finally left the Society 27/08/1643

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
WHITE, JOHN, Father (Irish), a native of Clonmel, born 1603 ; entered the Society 1620 ; in or about the year 1634, he was in the Province of Toledo. (Inish Ecclesiastical Record.) He is mentioned in a letter of Father Robert Nugent, dated from Ireland, October 1, 1640. (Oliver, as above.) He died between 1640 and 1646. (Hogan's list.)

Zapata, Francisco, former Jesuit priest

  • Person

Born: Spain
Entered: 1546, San Andrea, Rome, Italy
Ordained: pre Entry

Left Society of Jesus: 1547-8

Catalogus Defuncti 1641-1740 has Franciscus Zapata RIP 29/01/1692 Madrid (HS49 83v Tolet)

◆ The English Jesuits 1550-1650 Thomas M McCoog SJ : Catholic Record Society 1994
PRIEST
Born Spain
Ordained before entry
Entered 1546 Rome
Dismissed late 1547-early 1548

He accompanied Bröet and Salmerón on their mission to Ireland