Born: 08 May 1681, Trim, County Meath
Entered: 06 March 1703, Salamanca, Spain - Castellanae Province (CAST)
Ordained: c 1713

Left Society of Jesus: 01 November 1716

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773
He was the son of Raphael Evers and Joan White, and he was born at Trim, May 8, 1681. He entered the Society in the Province of Castile, March 6, 1703. As he was accepted for the Society at Salamanca, he is probably identical with a James White at the Irish College, who was approved in September 1702 to pass into second-year Theology.

After 1705 there is no means of tracing his career in Spain, beyond the fact that he was ordained Priest.

In 1714 he left his Province unauthorised and went to St Germain, but was induced by the General to go to the Irish College of Poitiers. During his stay there, the General negotiated with the Provincial of Aquitaine to emply White teaching Philosophy, for which he had some aptitude (he was a nephew of James White SJ). His anxiety, however, was to get back to Ireland to help, as he alleged, his widowed mother and sister.

He left the Society in the winter of 1716/1717

◆ MacErlean Cat Miss HIB SJ 1670-1770
1705 CAST Cat
Royal College Salamanca
“Didacus Vitus”
Born 08/05/1681 Meath
Entered 06/03/1703 Salmanaca
Teaching Grammar 1

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
James Evers alias White 21
Son of Raphael Evers and Joan White (Blanco), Trim dioc of Meath
06 March 1703 Entered CAST

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Carton XII O
25/06/1714 Anthony Knowles (at New Ross) to Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini
Fr Didacus White Evers has recently fled from Castile. Fr General has grounds for fearing he has gone to Ireland and is acting unworthily of the Society. He is to be expelled, unless as Fr General hopes, he returns to a house of the Society.

18/08/1714 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Anthony Knowles
Fr James White is committing himself and his case to Fr General. Fr Knowles need not be anxious about his arrival or of carrying out the sentence intimated on 23 June. If he has arrived in Ireland, Knowles is to order him to return to France.
He speaks of how Ours should approach a request (such as that to Fr Hennessy) and there should be consultation with Fr Knowles, and at the same time allow him to exeercise jurisdiction as requested.
He sympathises with the current unrest for Ours and clergy in ireland, and prays that some calm may come.

18/08/1714 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
Fr James White on Fr General’s orders recently arrived from Spain at Poitiers College. He asks that Fr lavallin would receive him with charity, and at the same time be diligently watchful over his character and way of life, and to inform Fr General from time to time.

18/08/1714 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to James White Evers (at St Germain)
He is to go to Irish College Poitiers from where he is currently staying. He will be expected there and charitably received by Fr Lavallin, according to Fr General’s instruction. He wishes Fr White to move there promptly.

29/12/1714 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
He is pleased by Father Lavallin’s praise of Fr James White. If Fr White is of such a disposition and acharacter, he will not be troublesome to Lavallin, and while he cannot be useful, he should not be idle. So I will recommend him to Fr Knowles to use his work in teaching philosophy somewhere. In turn, I ask of you if it can be done, to please receive into the Seminaryt an Irish youth, who will be entrusted to you in my name.
Fr Knowles has rightly been advised by you concerning the defects of Fr Thomas Hennessy, who I hope will see to it, by an opportune admonition, to show himself more unassuming in future.

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Carton XII P
23/02/1715 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
Acknowledges letter of 14 January. Le Tellier’s liberality towards Poitiers : If the Hughes money is generating an income, then I give permission for 30 gold to be received from it to complete the Chapel. If not, then you will have to wait, for I consider than nothing should be taken from the capital sum.
I hope for better things for Father White when he is applied to a determined office.
He asks him to inform Fr John Daly that jo change is to be made to what has been decreed about Masses.

04/05/1715 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
Adresses some confusion over a sum of 30 gold from the Hughes monies to be used to finish the new Chapel. Fr General wants it clear that this money is only to come from dividends, or money belonging to Poitiers which is lying idle in Paris, and at no stage should the capital sum be touched, or indeed that proportion of monies intended for other purposes.
He advises that Fr Knowles will determine whether and in what offices Fr White should be employed,
He thanks him for agreeing to accept the youth sent to hi by Fr Hennessy.

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Carton XII Q
14/03/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to James White Evers
I pity you much, because as you wrote in January, your mother and sisters are so oppressed by poverty, I cannot praise highly enough your dutifulness by which you desire to help them.. However, I do not see my way at all to be able to grant what you ask to be permitted you for that purpose, while in these times everything is in confusion in those parts and the outcome of things uncertain. I shall recommend however, to Fr Superior (Knowles) to whom I am soon writing, that he himself come to their aid. He will do so, I hope, in his charity very gladly and for his means very liberally.

14/03/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
That missing letter of January has now arrived. Father Provincial has not yet written anything about the keeping of the entire interest of 1,000 livres for this house, but rather from his information, I consider that such is the state of this house, that it could without inconveninces do without that share which is failing on account of the diminution of the Hughes returns. I am writing again to him, however, that he let me know his judgement which you intimate you have heard is favourable.
Permission to expose the Blessed Sacrament on hte Feats of Our Saints cannot on any account be granted. There are other exercises in addition for which the Chapel was usefully permitted and built. At the utmonst that could be permitted and carried out on the Feast of St patrick, patron of the Irish Mission.
I have no reply to make concerning Fr Lavery after I let you know, on many other occasions, my determination.
Fr James White can on no account be allowed to go to Ireland because of the circumstances of the very unsuitable time. I shall recommend however, the poverty of his mother and sisters to Fr Knowles. Besides, I trust, that by your dexterity, he may grow strong in character and learning, apply himself to something to be directed by you.
Whether the management of your affairs in Paris should be taken away from him who has up to now conducted them and a separate Procurator established, or should be entrusted to some extern, or for those reasons whioch you wrote to me on the contrary, on 15 July last year, we must ponder much and long, and before anything is decided, we must enquire whether any extern can be found whose trustworthiness and prudence you affairs can safely be committed. Furthermore, restitution of the loss from the withdrawal of the fifth “as” should not even be attempted at this time without obtaining the assistance of Fr de Guenin.

21/03/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Anthony Knowles
Received Fr Knowles’ letter of 23 December, and though it brought me some consolation beacuse of the praise bestowed on Ours, far greater, however, is the anxiety for you which boththat letter and observation of the state of the present times aroused in me. We are disposed to hope that God will keep you under his protection.
I grant Fr James Byrne permission to receive the annual subsidy which was bequeathed to him by his late father. I desire however, that in keeping or spending the same, as far as is possible, our statutes be observed.
It is well that Simon Read will arrive. I have not yet been informed as to the reasons why Fr Ignatius Roche has been detained.
Fr Thomas Hennessy can be admitted on August 15th to the grade befitting his doctrine, for that is the earliest time in whcih he will fulfill the requisite conditions for that grade. As regards the privileges wanted by him, you can inform him that I make him a participant of all which are in my power, with that exception which I hold in order to set up Sodalities. Amongst those however, were not those set forth 3-7 -- we will try to have these obtained if possible. Besides, he will have to be advised that in order to their right use and any right to them, he ought to consult the Compendium itself of our privileges, but it will be necessary that he will remember that fact that the work of Fr Archdekin is at least under censure, and accordingly, it is not enough to trust his assertions, unless for other reasons that those which he asserts have really been granted.
On this occasion I let you know, that not only because of your venerable age, but also the circumstances of these very difficult times, it is expedient for me to have knowledge of those wuch as who can be your successor in Office. And so I ask of you, that with your Consultors, you propose candidates to me in the customary way, and see to it that Fr Lavallin does likewise with his Consultors.
Father James Le Blanc alias White junior has earnestly begged of me to be allowed to go to Ireland to relieve the very great poverty of his mother and sister. It seemed that on no account should that be allowed. I have promised, however, that I would recommend them to your charity and generosity.

13/06/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to James White Evers
I do not know if the change of your present status will be so advantageous to you and yours, as perhaps you promise and imagine. Explain, however, please, the reasons for your judgement t Fr Provincial. On receiving his opinion, I will decide about what is shall have seemed right in the Lord to arrange. Meantime, I pray that you be enlightened and directed by the grace of the Holy Spirit.

13/06/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Xavier de la Grandville (Provinical of Aquitaine)
Fr James White junior in his most recent letter to me has begged for his dismissal from the Society, having stated as his reasons : besides the poverty of his mother and sister who are looking for help from him, the great distress inflicted on him by Fr Lavery, and the latter’s unbridled bad temper. It will certainly be known, at least in part to you, what you must hold concerning the reasons adduced, and what the Society must expect from that man. So, I ask you to let me know what you think of him, and whether or not you judge his dismissal should be for the greater good of the Society. He will consult with you on this matter if he obeys my will.

22/08/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Xavier de la Grandville (Provinical of Aquitaine)
Fr de la Grandville empowered to release James White from the Society.

02/10/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
You write in your letter of 26 August that more Fathers who are engaged in Ireland are not known to you, and of those whom you know, you consider none suitable for the office of Rector, I have in the meantime to know who, from reports, in the common estimation seems fit to you for that office.
The decision about Fr James White you will have already learned, or will learn from the Provincial of Aquitaine.

03/10/1716 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Charles Lavery
Fr General acknowledges Fr Knowles’ letter of 06 July, and it is a consolation to know our affairs are still succeeding, and that circumstances have not caused additional difficulty for Ours.
I am happy that what I wrote to you about privileges has been communicated to Fr Hennessy.
Your exhortations seem to have little effect on Fr James Evers (White), and we have seen fit to decide concerning him what you will have already learned, or will know soon.

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Carton XII R
06/02/1717 Fr General Michael Angelus Tamburini to Walter Lavallin
Writes that Fr Lavallin merits thanks for his administration, and gives a pardon for any faults. He exhorts him to continue his work of forming youth until his successor arrives.
It is well that James White was dismissed with charity.

Born: 29 November 1624, Cashel, County Tipperary
Entered: 08 November 1641, Villagarcía, Galicia, Spain (CAST)
Ordained: 1648/9
Final Vows: 08 September 1658
Died: 07 April 1682, Dublin, County Dublin

Left Society of Jesus: 17 May 1674

Nephew of James Sall - RIP 1646; cousin of Andrew Fitzbennet Sall, RIP - 1686; Uncle of Stephen Sall - RIP 1722

Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

Andrew Sall

According to most historians, Andrew Sall was the “Provincial” of the Jesuits who became a Protestant! here happened to be two comntemporary Irish Jesuit cousins. Society correspondence distinguishes between the two : Andrewas Sall Benedicti and Andreas Sall Joannis. Thes names, are, since Father Hogan’s time, rendered : Andrew Fitzbennet Sall and Andrew Fitzjohn Sall. The form FutzBennet has contemporary warrant outside the Society. I have not yet met with the form FitzJohn in contemporary documents.

The reader wikll be able to distinguish between the two and make up his mind that the Superior of the Mission did not apostasise.

-oOo-

Andrew Fitzjohn Sall

he was born in Cashel November 29, 1624, and he studied Philosophy for two years before he entered the Society at Villagarcía on November 8, 1640.

After his Noviceship he completed his Philosophy (the sources do not state where) and taught Humaniteis for two years at the Jesuit College of Compostella, he entered on his Theological studies in 1645 at the College of St AMbrose, Valladolid, and was ordained Priest there 1648/1649. Whether he made his tertianship at the end of his studies is uncertain.

By October 9, 1650, he was already Rector of the Irish College, Salamanca, and remained in office there until at least May 25, 1652. While at Salamanca he lectured in Controversial Theollgy. His next assignmant after Salamanca was that of Operarius at Oviedo (1655) and Pamplona (1658), where he was teaching Philosophy. Two years later he was teaching Philosophy or Theology at the College of Palencia, and was still, for all we know, at Palencia when he was recalled to the Irish Mission in 1664. He exercised his ministry in his native Cashel. Before he returned from Spain he had been admitted to the ranks of the solemnly professed of the Society on September 8, 1658.

In Cashel he proved himself an able Preacher, and is described in the Catalogues of 1666 as In confiutandis Jansenistis et heterodoxis potens. The General, however, in a letter of October 12, 1669 to the Superior of the Mission, Father Francis White, comunicated his apprehensiosn with regard to Fitzjohn Sall; “Keep Andrew Sall junior to his duty, and make him follow the example of Father Sall senior”.

It is a matter of general knowledge that Sall apostasised in the Church of St John, Cashel, on May 17, 1674. The following Jul 5, he preached before the Lord Lieutenant and Council a sermon in Christ Church, Dublin, giving his reasons for entering the established Protestant Church in Ireland.

His later history is of no concern to the Society, it has been dealt with in varius articles and pamphlets. It is enough to state here that the General issued directives that while members of the Irish Mission might answeer Sall’s doctrinal errors, no word should be used against him, likely to confirm him in his obduracy. The General hoped against hope that Sall would return to the Church.

He died unexpectedly in Dublin, April 7, 1862, and was buried at St Patrick’s Cathedral. Of his unhappy end, news was communicated by Archbishop John Brennan to Propaganda on May 1, 1682:-

Ne mese prossimo passato mori in Dublino Andrea Sll gesuita della diocesi Casselense, apostata dela fede. Si dice che volesse l’assistenza d’un sacerdote alla morte, ma non gli riusci, morendo subitamente.

(The article on Sall in the DNB (by R Bagwell) is quite untrustworthy so far as concerns Sall’s career in the Society. Foley, surprisingly, translates Andrew Fitzbennet Sall from Liège to Spain to make him Rector at Salamanca. he doesn’t make him leave the Church, however. It is to Hogan’s credit, in spite of the fact that he worked very mucg at second-hand and leaned heavily on Foley, that he keeps distinct the careers of the two Andrews.)

◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
F. Andrew Sall - This unfortunate man was born at Cashell, in 1612, and at the age of 23 joined the Society in the English Province. In 1642 he was studying the fourth year of Theology at Liege College. Re turning to Ireland, he so conducted himself as to he reported to the General of the Order, by Pere Verdier, who had met him in the course of his Visitation at Cashell, as “valde bonus et candidi animi”. When the Parliamentary supplanted the Royal Authority in Ireland, and many of the Regular and Secular Clergy fled from their savage persecutors, F. Sall remained behind, and did good service to Religion, chiefly at Waterford. But, at length, he was hunted out by the Priest Catchers From his own letter I learn, that after saying Mass, he was apprehended on the 22nd of January 1658, in the house of a respectable widow in Watetford. After thirteen months imprisonment, he was discharged from jail at the intercession of the Portuguese Ambassador; but condemned to perpetual exile. He reached Nantz in June, 1659 and was certainly there with F Thomas Quin on the 24th of February, 1660. Subsequently he went to Spain; and on his return to Ireland in 1663 was appointed Superior to his Brethren. This promotion, I fear, turned his head. A letter of F. Nicholas Netterville, a Jesuit of superior merit, to Fr. J. P. Oliva, dated Amiens, the 8th of February, 1667, satisfies me that F. Sall was then an altered man. No one becomes wicked on a sudden; and F Sall must have resisted many graces and warnings, before he publicly abjured the Catholic Faith in his native City, on the 17th of May, 1674. F. Stephen Rice, the Superior in Ireland, after stating to the said General the joy afforded to the Irish Mission by the erection of the new Seminary at Poitiers, observes, that their joy was clouded by the fall of this Brother, the first instance of apostacy of an Irish Jesuit. He adds that F. Sall had grown weary of the vows of poverty - had studied self-ease - had been addicted to vain glory, and much too fond of popular applause. Heresy showered on the miserable old man a profusion of titles and Church Preferments, of all which death deprived him, on the 6th of April, 1682. “Si Sal infatuatuin fuerit, &c.” If the salt have lost its savour, it is good for nothing, but to be cast out, and trodden under the foot of men. Yet in Peter Walsh he found an Advocate, if not an Admirer.

We may remark, that Harris’ account of this poor Renegade may, in many respects, be refuted by original documents, now extant.
A letter to me (Oliver) from the learned William Talbot Esq, dated Rool=klands, Wexford, 12 April, 1824, says “The Renegade Sall, in his last moments, called for a Cath clergyman, but none were allowed to see him”.

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DICTIONARY OF IRISH BIOGRAPHY

Sall, Andrew Fitzjohn

Contributed by
McCaughey, Terence

Sall, Andrew Fitzjohn (1624–82), scholar and sometime Jesuit, was born into an Old English family in the city of Cashel, Co. Tipperary; nothing is known of his parents. More than five Jesuits bore the name Sall (Sál, Sale). With such a background it is not surprising to find the young Andrew Fitzjohn Sall setting off in 1638 to study in Spain. He was to be there for seventeen years. His period on the staff of the college at Numacia and Villagarcia was probably routine. But not so his appointment to Pamplona, where he became advisor to El Conde de San Stephano and made his first acquaintance with Bishop Nicholas French (qv). He became rector of the Irish College in 1652 and was professor of controversial theology. An intention to change the direction of his career is suggested by the fact that he was serving as a pastoral substitute in Oviedo in 1655. Three years later, however, he was back in Pamplona teaching.

He returned to Ireland not later than 1665, and is not to be confused with his older cousin, and namesake, the superior of the order. As late as 12 October 1669 the general of the order in a letter says: ‘Keep Andrew Sall junior to his duty and make him follow the example of Fr Sall senior’, i.e. his cousin. The Ireland to which he returned was riven with the controversy associated with the loyal remonstrance of the Franciscan Peter Walsh (qv) and others, into which he readily entered. Association with the protestant archbishop Thomas Price (qv) aroused in him many misgivings about aspects of Roman catholic doctrine and practice. Later he acknowledged that he entertained the thought of separation from the Roman catholic church but resolved to spend the remnant of his days ‘retired and unknown to prepare better for the long day of eternity’ (Sall, True catholic and apostolic faith, preface). Later he prepared a paper, not for publication, which ‘dropped from me and fell into the hands of some’ (ibid.) who concluded that he had already become a protestant minister. The exchange of letters that took place between Fr Sall and Fr Stephen Rice in Dundalk is a sad one, Fr Rice offering to make amends for any offence so that ‘union at least of Christianity if not of religion may be entire among us’ (ibid.). For a variety of reasons the breach was not healed.

Sometime in the summer of 1674 Andrew Sall took up residence in TCD. Here he prepared and successfully defended his DD thesis. Here too he came under the protection of Dr John Fell (1625–86), who facilitated the work of scripture translation into various languages then being undertaken in Oxford. In July 1675 Sall took refuge in Oxford, where he remained till 1680. He saw no less than three books of a theological and polemical nature through the press during this period, but it can be no accident that on his return to Ireland he was drawn into translation work.

Sall's return to Ireland was prompted by a desire to assist Robert Boyle (qv) and his sister in their various translation activities. But one last activity he had to leave unfinished was the publication of the translation of the Old Testament by Murtagh King (qv) (Muircheartach Ó Cionga) and Séamas de Nógla (James Nangle), which had been made under the aegis of William Bedell (qv) in the 1630s. The translation had been rescued and preserved by Denis Sheridan (qv) (Donnchadh Ó Sioradáin), a protégé of Bedell, by whom it was given to Henry Jones (qv), bishop of Meath. Sall had already seen the text at Jones's house, and he expressed the view that ‘the Irish version of the Old Testament should be revised’. On the question of register, for instance, he had this to say: ‘This much in general I shall insinuate, that if I were fit to be a translator, of two ends men may aim at in such a work, the one of getting the credit of skill in the primitive ancient Irish, the other of benefiting common readers by expressions now in use, I would choose the latter . . .’ When he first came to examine the manuscript, Sall discovered it to be ‘a confused heap’, had it rebound, and hoped ‘to make up a complete Old Testament with the help of God and Mr Higgin’, i.e. Pól Ó hUigínn (qv), the Irish lecturer at Trinity College. He goes on to speak of what a labour it ‘will be to draw up a clear copy of the whole’.

Sall worked at the text of Bedell's Old Testament during the early months of 1682, and by 7 February he reported that eight chapters of Genesis had been written out from the manuscript ‘in very fair letter as clear as any print’. The scribe Mr Mullan, a bachelor of physic, had agreed to the rate of eleven pence a sheet, with the acquiescence of Dr Narcissus Marsh (qv), provost of Trinity College, and Ó hUigínn. Mullan supplied the first transcriptions under Sall's supervision. He also stayed at Sall's house, and Dr Sall says of himself that he would lay aside other duties so as to attend to this work. Actually he had just over two months left; he never returned to his other work, nor did he finish this work either. But for the time that was left he threw himself into it, both the work on the text and the administration of a subscription list.

In the course of all this Andrew Sall discovered – rather to his surprise at first, it would seem – that the project of making the scriptures available in Irish, and the scheme of proselytisation of which it was an essential instrument, were actually opposed by some within the protestant camp, while others remained at least ambivalent. ‘One of them had the gallantry to tell me in my face, and at my own table, that while I went about to gain the Irish (to God, I mean), I should lose the English.’

From November 1680 till his death (5 April 1682) he lived in Oxmanstown on the north bank of the River Liffey in Young's Castle (Michael Hunter and Edward B. Davis (ed.), The works of Robert Boyle (14 vols, 1999–2000), v, 608).

More information on this entry is available at the National Database of Irish-language biographies (Ainm.ie).

Sources
The doleful fall of Andrew Sall, a Jesuit of the fourth vow, from the Roman Catholick apostolic faith, lamented by his constant friend, Nicholas French (Douai, 1674); The unerring and unerrable church; or, An answer to a sermon preached by Mr Andrew Sall, formerly a Jesuit and now a minister of the protestant church, written by I. S. (1675); Andrew Sall, True catholic and apostolic faith, maintained in the Church of England . . . (1676); id., A sermon preached at Christ-Church in Dublin before the lord lieutenant and council, July 5, 1674; Michael Hunter, Antonio Clericuzio, and Lawrence M. Principe (ed.), The correspondence of Robert Boyle (6 vols, 2001)

Born: Ireland
Entered: 1655,
Ordained: ???
Died: ???
Official Catalogus Defuncti MISSING

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as Ent 1655 and Old/15 (1)

◆ Old/16 has : “Thomas Ryan”; Ent 1655

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
Ent c 1655

Superior in Dublin in the early part of the reign of Charles II; Reputed an able-divine (Foley)

His letter(s) written in 1661 are at Salamanca

◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
RYAN, THOMAS, was Superior in Dublin, in the early part of Charles the Second’s reign (1630-1685), and had the reputation of being an able Divine. It is painful to be unable to follow up the history of this Rev. Father.

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
RYAN, THOMAS, Father (Irish), entered the Society about 1655-6. (Hogan's list.) He was Superior in Dublin in the early part of the reign of King Charles II, and had the reputation of being an able divine, (Oliver, from Stonyhurst MSS.)

Born: 1597, Castlehaven, County Cork
Entered: 15 October 1614, Spain - Castellanae Province (CAST)
Ordained: 1623/4, Royal College Salamanca, Salamanca, Spain
Died: 1634

Left Society of Jesus: 02 February 1626

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as “O’Driscol” Ent 1614

◆ Old/15 (1) “O’Driscol”, RIP after 1625

◆ Old/16 has : “P Conor O’Driscol”; DOB 1597 Cork; Ent 1614 Spain; RIP post 1626

◆ Old/17 has “Driscol” Dimissi 02/02/1626 (CAST)

◆ CATSJ I-Y has “Cornelius O’Driscol”; DOB 1595 Castlehaven; Ent 1614; RIP 1634
First Vows 18/02/1616
1622-1625 At Salamanca studying Theology. Good student, talented enough to teach Arts and Theology
1625 At Arevalo College CAST

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
O’Driscol

DOB 1597 Cork; Ent 1614 Spain; RIP post 1626

He was a Priest in Spain in 1617 and 1626 (CATS 1617 and 1626)

In pen
At College of Salamanca 1625; Made First Vows 1614; Had studied three years Philosophy and 4 Theology

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
Cornelius Driscol 17 of Ireland
Son of Thady Driscol and Margaret Carti
15 October 1614 Entered CAST

◆ Francis Finegan Notes
Cornelius or Conor

DOB 1598 Castlehaven; Ent 01/12/1614 CAST; Ord 1623/24 Salamanca; LEFT 02/02/1626

Son of Thady (a colonel in the Spanish Army) and Margaret née Carty

After First Vows he was sent for studies to Pamplona and Royal College Salamanca where he was Ordained 1623/24
His Superiors had remarked his ability in Theology and sent him for post-graduate studies also at Salamanca. He did not get the chance of settling down to his scholastic career, however, as his parents, then living in Coruña, claimed his financial help in their poverty. The General and the Spanish Superiors tried so to arrange matters so that Thady O’Driscoll might be helped in his penury while his son could remain a Jesuit, whilst at the same time the Superior of the Irish Mission was trying to recruit him. But eventually yielding to the pressure of the O’Driscolls and their son, the General dismissed him in 02/02/1626

Born: 10 August 1584, Waterford City, County Waterford
Entered: 11 January 1605, St Andrea, Rome, Italy (ROM)

Left Society of Jesus: 1612

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as Ent 1604
◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as Ent 02/01/1605

◆ Old/15 (1) has Ent 1604
◆ Old/15 (1) has in pencil on one copy Ent 02/01/1605, RIP after 1612-13

◆ Old/16 has : “P Laurence Lea”; DOB 1584 Waterford; Ent 1604; RIP 1609 & 1616 Germany

◆ Old/17 has Ent 11/01/1605 St Andrea

◆ CATSJ I-Y has DOB 10/08/1584 Waterford; Ent 11th or 02/01/1605 St Andrea;
Had studied Philosophy 1 year
1611 At Ingolstadt studying Theology (Ingolstadt CAT)
1612-1613 Sent from Germany to Belgium

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
DOB 1584 Waterford; Ent 1604; RIP 1609-616

1609 In Upper Germany

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
Laurence Lea 20
11 January 1605 Entered St Andrea (ROM)

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

He was son of John Lea and his wife Elizabeth Walshe, and he was born in Waterford, August 10, 1584. He entered the Irish College of Salamanca, June 26, 1603, and was received into the Society at Rome, January 11, 1905.

After his Noviceship he was sent to Upper Germany to continue his ecclesiastical studies, and was completing his fiirst year of Theology at Ingolstadt in 1611. He was then described as in poor health. In February 1612 he was at Antwerp, still unwell, but anxious to be ordained and to be sent to Ireland. A month later, the General advised the Provincial of Flanders that Lea should not be ordained because of his health, as he was unlikely to succeed afterwards in Ireland.

It seems he left the Society but became a Priest and eventually Vicar general of Waterford.

The General, on March 12, 1622, wrote to a Father Laurence Lea of Waterford, commending him for his work in promoting the Sodality of the Blessed Virgin. But it cannot be proved that the scholastic of Ingolstadt and Antwerp is identified with the future Vicar General.

Born: 01 February 1590, Cork City, County Cork
Entered: 14 November 1609, St Andrea, Rome, Italy (ROM)
Ordained: ???

Left Society of Jesus: 24 October 1619

◆ In Chronological Catalogue Sheet as Ent 1608

Old/15 (10 has Ent 1608, corrected to 14/11/1609, RIP after 1615

Old/16 has : “P Stephen Gould”; DOB 1589 Cork; Ent 1608; RIP 1617 & 1626

Old/17 has “Guldeo” Ent 14/11/1609 St Andrea
Old/17 has “Gooldous” Dimissi 24/10/1619 (HIB)

◆ CATSJ A-H has “Gould or Goulde”; DOB 01/02/1590 Irishman/Cork; Ent 01/08 or 14/11/1609 St Andrea, Rome;
A philosopher on Ent. Studied Philosophy at our College of Antwerp and Douai
Probation at Tournai or Douai
1611 BELG CAT Sent to Belgium from Rome - endowed with great natural gifts
1615 Taught Syntax or perhaps Teaching Greek at Dinant (GAL-BEL)

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
DOB 1589 Cork; Ent 1608 Rome; RIP 1617-1626

Described as a man of great abilities

Was in Belgium 1611 and 1617

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
Stephen Gould 21 “filosofo”
13 November 1609 Entered St Andrea Rome

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

He was born in Ireland, February 1, 1590, and he entered the Society at Rome, November 14, 1609. he had already studied Humanies for six years under the Jesuits at Antwerp and Douai, and in the latter town studied Philosophy at the Irish College.

After one year at Rome, he was sent to Tournai to complete his Noviceship. Having made his first religious profession, he spent a year at Mons completing his Philosophyu course, and then two years of Regency between the Colleges of Mons and Dinant. Between 1614 and 1616, he was studying Theology at Louvain. A lacuna in the Catalogi of Belgium makes it impossible to determined whether he was ordained Priest in the Society.

He left the Society October 24, 1619, and his name disappears henceforth from Society records.

A letter, however, of the General to his provincial, and dated December 10, 1616, makes it clear that Gould had bee4n sent back to Ireland because of the precarious state of his health. he left the Society at his own request.

It is likely that he is identical with a Stephen Gould, a priest, who arrived at the Irish College, Salamanca, April 25, 1620, described as the con of George Gould of the city of Cork. He was said to gave been about 32 years of age. Father Thomas Briones, Rector at Salamanca, sent him to Ireland, July 4, 1620.

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
GOULD, STEPHEN, Father (Irish), a native of Cork. Was in Belgium in 1617. (Irish Ecclesiastical Record, August, 1874.)

Born: County Wexford or County Cork
Entered: 1606, France

Left Society of Jesus: 1639 (ill health)

in 1634 Cat as “Infirmus” no other info - LEFT by 1639 ill health

◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
COPPINGER, JOHN, left Ireland for France to enter the Society early in 1606, as I discover in F. Holywood s letter of the 29th of June, that year.

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
DOB Wexford or Cork; Ent June 1606; RIP 1619-1626

A writer; A Missioner of note; Alive in 1624

In pen
“John Copinger and James Griphous were witnesses to the oath of James Miach, Cork, 30/09/1598 at Irish College Salamanca”
“ev John Copinger of Leixlip, will proven 1639”

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
COPPINGER, JOHN Father (Irish), entered the Society 1606. (Hogan's Ibernia, p. 249.)

Born: 1601,New Ross, County Wexford
Entered: 05 January 1617, Villagarcía, Galicia, Spain - Castellanae Province (CAST)
Ordained: c 1627

Left Society of Jesus: 08 July 1631

◆ CATSJ A-H has DOB Cashel
1625 at Salamanca
1625 at Seville 2nd year Theology
1628 a native of Cashel is Minister and Operarius or Irish College Seville
John Conway of Ross in Villagarcía 1301, 1617, 1619
John Conbeus (no 2) of Ross DOB 1598 at Salamanca 1621
John Conbeus of Ross in College of Leon 1628
1637 CAT at ARSI proficient in letters, judgement, experience and prudence mediocre

also DOB 1600 Cashel; Ent 1620; 1625 at Seville Theology; 13628 at Seville Minister and Operarius
also DOB 1598 Ross Diocese; Ent 1617; 1619 at Villagarcía; 1625 at Salamanca

Much confusion of John Conways here - there are 4 : 3 priests and 1 brother the confusions is with the priests

◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
CONNY,---- was Superior of the Seminary at Salamanca in the summer of 1607

◆ Fr Edmund Hogan SJ “Catalogica Chronologica” :
DOB 1600 New Ross; Ent 1617 or in pen 05/01/1617 Spain; RIP 08/10/1689 Ghent (though this could be William RIP 1689??)

◆ Calendar of MacErlean Transcipts Addenda Irishmen who entered Rome and Spain 1561-1772 (Finegan)
John Conway of New Ross, dioc of Ferns, 16
Son of Son of Thomas Conway and Margaret de Berox - Devereux (also Catalina da Crox - Cruise?)
05 January 1617 Entered CAST

◆ Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773

He was born at New Ross, 1601, and entered the Society in the Province of Castille, January 5, 1617. He was the son of Thomas Conway (brother of Father Richard SJ - RIP 1626) and his wife Margaret Devereux.

After his Noviceship at Villagarcia, he studied Philosophy at Compostella and Theology at the Royal College, Salamanca, where he was ordained Priest, c 1627,

The following year he was stationed at Oviedo as Operarius.

He left the Society July 8, 1631.

◆ Henry Foley - Records of the English province of The Society of Jesus Vol VII
CONNY,- Father, (Irish), was Rector of the Irish College of Salamanca in the autumn of 1607.